bravesfanMatt
Steve Harvey'd
So you would do nothing then.
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So you would do nothing then.
Yup, and the Braves are packed with arms like that...pitchers who can face a lineup 1 time and cover 2-3 innings. Pair 2 of them to cover 5-6 innings per game, especially if they are opposite handed, and they could prove very effective.
It’s really the only option now anyways.
Southcack77
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I think that's a pretty stupid response, but it's possible that I wouldn't get a deal done.
bravesfanMatt
Steve Harvey'd
No. It is pretty clear what you are asking won’t happen. You want to make a trade now but not get robbed and hopefully for someone with control. Yeah. That is not going to happen. Every team thinks they can win. And even if they don’t. They aren’t going to make a fair value trade this early while other teams could join the bidding as the season wears on.
It is ridiculous to think anyone is trading Mlb pieces this early on.
Southcack77
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I didn't say anything about trading right now.
I said I'd be willing to pay a premium on acquiring a player with remaining control.
Attempting to find those deals isn't doing nothing even if your water cooler wisdom turns out to be correct.
I'm going to move on now. Apologies for calling your response stupid.
He’s still pre-arb and almost at 20 career WAR already. It’s going to take a ****-ton more than Riley to get him from the A’s. It would take a Pache package most likely to pry him away.
Heyward
<B>Voted Worst Poster <br>'13, '14, '15 (Co-Winner
You serious Clark? It would take Pache + to get Chapman, Riley isnt coming close to getting him. Boras is Chapman's agent, so the money would have to be pretty absurd to get Chapman to sign a long-term deal.
Southcack77
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Should the Braves be willing to trade Pache for 3 years of Chapman? I'd probably consider it.
Southcack77
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Pache, Anderson or Wright, Riley and their choice of minor league catcher.
Yay or nay?
i'd be tempted.
we're talking about a 6-WAR 3B here.
increased his power, lowered his Ks, and increased his BBs from '18-'19.
Heyward
<B>Voted Worst Poster <br>'13, '14, '15 (Co-Winner
Alex has said he'll do big trades if he thinks he can sign the player to a long-term deal. I dont know if he'll trade 18+ years worth of service for 3 years of a player.
Horsehide Harry
<B>Mr. Free Trade</B>
Many here will have no idea what you're talking about.
Braves traded Brett Butler, Brook Jacoby and Rick Behenna plus $150K to Cleveland for RHP Len Barker.
Butler was a CF/LO guy and a 49.7 career fWAR player, 47.2 came with clubs after he was traded by the Braves.
Jacoby was a 3B/1B guy who had a 15 fWAR career, 15.7 of which came with clubs after Atlanta traded him (23 when Braves traded him and had a negative 0.7 WAR in his short career).
Behenna was a RH SP who had a short career of -0.4 fWAR, with a highlight as a 23 YO of a 0.5 fWAR season.
OTOH
Barker was a RH SP, with a career 13.3 fWar, of which 12.3 fWAR came before he was traded.
So the Braves traded 62.5 career fWAR for 1 fWAR return.
That's the kind of dumbshiiite that ruins a franchise.
Riley was one of the top 3rd base prospects out there (last year) that is MLB ready and has twice the years of control as Chapman. Obviously it would take more than Riley, but I was thinking Riley, Wright and someone like Shewmake. That’s three of our top 10 (knowing Riley isn’t considered a prospect now, but this is the first year he isn’t).
Chapman with his agent won’t be easy to sign, won’t be that cheap now that he will be getting into arb years and is with a team that absolutely doesn’t plan to pay him. That hurts his value a tad. That would give the A’s a immediate high ceiling 3rd baseman, a high first round pitcher with basically all years of control and a SS prospect 1st rounder with a ton of potential. That’s WAY more than the Marlins got for Yelich.
The problem is, Riley and Wright each have issues. And they’re well known issues at the MLB level at this point. Think of the trade the other way, if we had Chapman, with 3 years of control left, would you trade him for that crappy return? I absolutely wouldn’t.
It would totally take Pache, Anderson, and more to get him. Or Albies +.
****ing coppy at it again
JohnAdcox
Brian Jordan's New BFF
So too soon?
The thing about trading with the As is they tend to value cheap 1-2 win players very highly due to payroll constraints. Look at their return for JD when AA got him to Toronto. The headliner was Brett Lawrie, a 2 win guy that could step in and replace JD, and a trio of prospects that amounted to pretty much nothing.
The Braves have a ton of those 1-2 win guys who are MLB-ready, and I could see them packaging a few up for Chapman..but almost certainly not this year when he is making league minimum and the As are almost certainly going to be playoff contenders.
Any Chapman talk needs to wait until this off season or next. It's simply not happening in 2020.
The Braves have a ton of those 1-2 win guys who are MLB-ready, and I could see them packaging a few up for Chapman..but almost certainly not this year when he is making league minimum and the As are almost certainly going to be playoff contenders.
Any Chapman talk needs to wait until this off season or next. It's simply not happening in 2020.