Spring Training Gamethread/Discussion

Its kind of a best case scenario for everyone but Johnson. I just think that it would be just our luck that the lineup actually reaches its potential in a year where ourrotation is devastated by injury.
 
I really hope Fredi realizes that Gattis is better suited to the sixth spot.

Then who hits fourth? He's pretty much there by default, unless you move Heyward off leadoff or Justin out of the 2 hole. (neither of which is a good idea IMO)
 
Then who hits fourth? He's pretty much there by default, unless you move Heyward off leadoff or Justin out of the 2 hole. (neither of which is a good idea IMO)

I would bat CJ there until he proves he isn't going to hit over .300.
 
Phillies are having a god awful spring, at least as far as the games are concerned. They're not hitting and their pitching hasn't been very good either.
 
What kind of respect does he deserve?

Everyone treats him like he couldn't have possibly grown as a player and that, in fact, he is going to be worse than with Arizona. RIGHT NOW, he should be considered part of the top of the lineup until he shows he shouldn't be there. Even if the guy only hits .305, he is going to get on base more often than anyone other than the top three. All those hits will be nice with Heyward, Upton, and Freeman on base.
 
Everyone treats him like he couldn't have possibly grown as a player and that, in fact, he is going to be worse than with Arizona. RIGHT NOW, he should be considered part of the top of the lineup until he shows he shouldn't be there. Even if the guy only hits .305, he is going to get on base more often than anyone other than the top three. All those hits will be nice with Heyward, Upton, and Freeman on base.

I finally agree with Dalyn on something. CJ is a very good hitter, sure he probably won't hit 330 again but 300 is good too.
 
Everyone treats him like he couldn't have possibly grown as a player and that, in fact, he is going to be worse than with Arizona. RIGHT NOW, he should be considered part of the top of the lineup until he shows he shouldn't be there. Even if the guy only hits .305, he is going to get on base more often than anyone other than the top three. All those hits will be nice with Heyward, Upton, and Freeman on base.

Players don't improve...thats what we are told.
 
I had chad qualls about Chris Johnson, until he actually showed up in the playoffs unlike 3/4 of our lineup.

You know your offense sucks when Elliot Johnson has an RBI triple.
 
I think its optimistic to think he "will only hit .305."

Could he have improved as a hitter? Certainly, but he could improve as a hitter and see that BABIP fall way below .394.

The things we know about CJ is that he will walk 5% of the time and he will strike out 20% of the time. His power (isoslg) is going to be .125 to .150. These numbers for him are remarkably consistent and were consistent last year.

Hitting .300 in the majors is tough to do and in a lot of instances luck really does play a part of it.

If he doesn't have a .394 BABIP (which is not likely) and his BA drops to .280-.290; what are we left with? .285/.325/.420. That is pretty much spot on from what I expect of him. Certainly, that's not a bad offensively player, but for that type of production at the hot corner with bad defense; ehhhhhhhhhh you better put a lot of hope in him being able to defy 100 years of baseball saying he can't maintain that level of BABIP.
 
Hitting .300 in the majors is tough to do and in a lot of instances luck really does play a part of it.

Not if you have a good approach and CJ does. He uses the whole field.

And I still don't understand the bad defense argument. I must not understand the game of baseball because every time I watched him play he was solid.
 
I'm still amazed by how people can say a guy that doesn't walk and k's more than 20% of the time has a "good approach". A lot more goes into your approach other than just hitting the ball to the opposite field...unless your subscribe to the Joe Simpson school of hitting...
 
He was 8th in MLB in LD% last year. So I think that bodes well for him this coming season. I think .300 is a realistic expectation from CJ.
 
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