The Coronavirus, not the beer

Metaphysicist said:
I'm not completely clear on what the counterfactual argument of we are supposed to have done to "save" the economy. I keep hearing that "the at-risk should stay home" but once you've told:

1) Everyone over 50 (45? 55? 60?)
2) Everyone with high blood pressure
3) Everyone with diabetes
4) Everyone with respiratory problems
5) Everyone who has [insert other reasonably common ailment/history]
6) Everybody who lives with one of those people. (or is this not part of it?)

Isn't that like over half the population already? How different do you really see that being? I'm just not sure I'm understanding.
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Reopening the economy is one issue.

Reopening schools will be an entirely different beast. How can you make in person attendance mandatory if they live with at risk family members?
 
chop2chip said:
Reopening the economy is one issue.

Reopening schools will be an entirely different beast. How can you make in person attendance mandatory if they live with at risk family members?
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Yeah, I have no idea what is gonna happen with schools. Even universities don't seem to have a plan for the fall yet.
 
Metaphysicist said:
I guess, but the point is if your counterfactual world still sees 90% of the economic collapse but we are less certain about actually saving people, that's not a very compelling argument.
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Not going to debate the 90% because that's impossible to prove or deny.

I absolutely disagree about the saving lives part. We just brought the infection in doors for longer periods of time.
 
The Chosen One said:
@thewupk and I were talking about this everyday basically since the first deaths in China in January. I still concretely remember him messaging me on Facebook when the first case was announced in Suburban Seattle and he said "it's here now we all gonna die boy you ready?"

Fascinating to read the comments now in here, but I think he and I were playfully joking about it getting more serious throughout February half-jokingly. Then it started getting worse and worse.

I know he hasn't posted as much in this thread but thewupk has been obsessed with this from the beginning.
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Yeah man. I've been on this since early Jan. That being said at the time it's China an nobody really understood what was happening because it's....China. The WHO definitely dropped the ball early on there. Once it spread fast in that mega church in South Korea and what was happening in Italy I knew it was a matter of time. The outbreak in the Seattle nursing homes caused people in the States to finally pay attention but it was already here.

Hopefully nobody will have to go through a pandemic again anytime in the near future but this will be a lesson learned for western civilization. Asia got theirs with the original SARS and for the most part are handling this a lot better.

We here in America were absolutely going to get screwed though. With the sheer size of the country and how it's basically divided into two camps **** was going to get bad. Even during the biggest crisis of our time the government still can't get on the same page. It's pretty sad.

Social distancing is working and we need to keep it going to beat this thing.
 
Thethe, you and yours could move to a country that thinks this is all bull****

You’d be the modern day pilgrims
 
This already got here right?

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Unfortunately

Doesn’t seem like the cure thethe and his dumbass leader said
 
thethe said:
As more successful trials come on on Hydroxychloroquine we will see that it will be the key factor in not having death rates in excess of .1%.

In addition to slowing the curve you are actually killing infections in the infected population without transmission to a new host. That resets the curve back tremendously.

What we have done already can buy us another month or two of regular business (with simple social distancing aspects adopted) until we have to consider another form of extreme measure.

But the continuation of our econcomy is essential and if the hydroxychloroquine is as good as reported then we won't have to stop at all and then the next step is an approved vaccine.
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Bump
 
goldfly said:
This already got here right?

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Unfortunately

Doesn’t seem like the cure thethe and his dumbass leader said
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I'm curious why thethe thinks hydroxychloroquine is the miracle drug treatment for Covid. Does he have a medical background or some knowledge or experience with the drug?

Or does he just believe anything Trump says?
 
You don't need a medical background to know about these things.

Back in 2009 we had some amazing takes on the swine flu vaccine.

Glenn Beck: You don't know if it will cause neurological damage.

Rush Limbaugh: I am not going to take it...I don't take flu shots.

Bill Maher: People who get flu shots are idiots. Why would you let the government stick a disease into your arm? I would never get a flu vaccine or any vaccine.
 
Trump's moving death goal posts, now at 50 or 60,000, look no more reality-based than anything else he's said.
 
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nsacpi said:
You don't need a medical background to know about these things.

Back in 2009 we had some amazing takes on the swine flu vaccine.

Glenn Beck: You don't know if it will cause neurological damage.

Rush Limbaugh: I am not going to take it...I don't take flu shots.

Bill Maher: People who get flu shots are idiots. Why would you let the government stick a disease into your arm? I would never get a flu vaccine or any vaccine.
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I've never had a flu shot either but not out of fear of one. Just seem to do okay without it.

What would be the odds that a malaria drug would work against Covid? If it had worked, it would've been a strange case, like finding penicillin in bread mold.
 
Runnin said:
I've never had a flu shot either but not out of fear of one. Just seem to do okay without it.

What would be the odds that a malaria drug would work against Covid? If it had worked, it would've been a strange case, like finding penicillin in bread mold.
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It was used in SK and China (who knows). There have been numerous reports from doctors globally of its efficacy[not clinically proven of course].

The conflicting report requires me to shut up but this is not the last chapter.
 
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