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I’m shocked we are doing so bad at this

We are an embarrassment to the world

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Welp, my wife's mother and step-father both tested positive this morning after running mild fevers overnight. Last saw them June 28. But my sister-in-law lives with them and she baby sat for us last week..... And of course I saw my 65 year old parents yesterday....
 
Carp said:
Welp, my wife's mother and step-father both tested positive this morning after running mild fevers overnight. Last saw them June 28. But my sister-in-law lives with them and she baby sat for us last week..... And of course I saw my 65 year old parents yesterday....
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This is the kind of thing we all worry about. Hope they come through with just a mild version of COVID.

My in-laws are in their late 80s and up until recently have been scrupulous about self-isolating. But they have started getting careless. One of them reported a fever and headache last night. She goes to the hospital once a month for a gamma globulin infusion. Sometimes that makes her feel sick for a day or two. She went in for it last week. Hopefully, that's all that is going on.
 
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Welp, my wife's mother and step-father both tested positive this morning after running mild fevers overnight. Last saw them June 28. But my sister-in-law lives with them and she baby sat for us last week..... And of course I saw my 65 year old parents yesterday....
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Be well and quick recoveries to your family. Let us know how things go. :)
 
The WH surely forced Fauci to downplay the danger back in the spring and he capitulated early reports in order to stay on the team. Now the WH is attacking him when they have wildly wrong been wrong much more.

OO has zero loyalty to anyone if he thinks a knife in their back will help him.
 
Remember when tehteh, our resident expert on virology, tried to explain to all of us morons how herd immunity worked?

Shockingly, it looks like he is probably wrong, and there will be very little natural herd immunity.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/poli...months-researchers-say/ar-BB16GohP?li=BBnb7Kz

Oh wait, it's not shocking at all that he's wrong, and he will simply ignore the facts when he moves onto his next bit of pseudo-science babble.
 
Enscheff said:
Remember when tehteh, our resident expert on virology, tried to explain to all of us morons how herd immunity worked?

Shockingly, it looks like he is probably wrong, and there will be very little natural herd immunity.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/poli...months-researchers-say/ar-BB16GohP?li=BBnb7Kz

Oh wait, it's not shocking at all that he's wrong, and he will simply ignore the facts when he moves onto his next bit of pseudo-science babble.
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If immunity goes away that quickly, a vaccine is pretty much useless then without a booster every couple months then right?
 
However, it looks like mild cases of covid result in very short lived immunity. This leads people to assume that all the asymptomatic covid infections lead to immune individuals.

That assumption is the linchpin of the herd immunity idea, and if that proves incorrect these folks are going to find some other pseudo-science to hang their hats on.
 
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Looked it up...

https://www.legacy.com/obituaries/houstonchronicle/browse

Today: 3 deaths
Yesterday (Sunday): 39 Deaths
11th: 4 deaths
10th: 11 deaths
9th: 5 deaths
8th: 10 deaths
7th: 6 deaths

Of the deaths in paper yesterday, 10 were in the last week, 24 were before last week (some all the way back in June), and 5 are unknown.

ETA... I tried to look at more Sundays to compare numbers, but wouldn't let me go back that far. Each death had a small paragraph... "43 pages" is a total exaggeration
 
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Looked it up...

https://www.legacy.com/obituaries/houstonchronicle/browse

Today: 3 deaths
Yesterday (Sunday): 39 Deaths
11th: 4 deaths
10th: 11 deaths
9th: 5 deaths
8th: 10 deaths
7th: 6 deaths

Of the deaths in paper yesterday, 10 were in the last week, 24 were before last week (some all the way back in June), and 5 are unknown.

ETA... I tried to look at more Sundays to compare numbers, but wouldn't let me go back that far. Each death had a small paragraph... "43 pages" is a total exaggeration
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Are you saying the panic crowd is not presenting the reality on the ground in any context?

Shocked.
 
Carp said:
Welp, my wife's mother and step-father both tested positive this morning after running mild fevers overnight. Last saw them June 28. But my sister-in-law lives with them and she baby sat for us last week..... And of course I saw my 65 year old parents yesterday....
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Best of luck. We had it and it ended up being very mild, except for my mother in law who now has asthma from Covid. All things considered we were fortunate.

Hope things work out for your family.
 
Carp said:
Welp, my wife's mother and step-father both tested positive this morning after running mild fevers overnight. Last saw them June 28. But my sister-in-law lives with them and she baby sat for us last week..... And of course I saw my 65 year old parents yesterday....
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godspeed man

hope it all works out fine for y'all
 
thethe said:
Usual suspects still proving they don't know anything

https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/05/t-cells-found-covid-19-patients-bode-well-long-term-immunity

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wi...-may-rely-on-a-microscopic-helper-t-cells/amp


Keep up crazy and stick to exporting data from baseball sites.
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One of those is almost two months old. The other says such things as -

"That research hasn’t been peer-reviewed yet. And it’s a small study, Farber notes, with plenty of uncertainty; ruling out cross-reactivity entirely is a difficult task. “I think you need really big cohort studies to assess that this is possible,” she says. And in any case, back to that original caveat: Nothing about the results says that a T cell response alone confers immunity to Covid-19. But to Buggert, it demonstrates the importance of looking beyond antibodies alone when investigating potential immunity."

Fact is, we don't KNOW herd immunity is an option. We just don't. Not yet.
 
Dalyn said:
One of those is almost two months old. The other says such things as -

"That research hasn’t been peer-reviewed yet. And it’s a small study, Farber notes, with plenty of uncertainty; ruling out cross-reactivity entirely is a difficult task. “I think you need really big cohort studies to assess that this is possible,” she says. And in any case, back to that original caveat: Nothing about the results says that a T cell response alone confers immunity to Covid-19. But to Buggert, it demonstrates the importance of looking beyond antibodies alone when investigating potential immunity."

Fact is, we don't KNOW herd immunity is an option. We just don't. Not yet.
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The article which was 2 months old is to show that the belief the body can launch an effective immune response without traditional antibodies was in the public space for a duration of the discussion on this forum.

I suppose berd immunity could end up not working but that woild go against effectively all known history so I'm comfortable not jumping into that panic narrative.
 
thethe said:
The article which was 2 months old is to show that the belief the body can launch an effective immune response without traditional antibodies was in the public space for a duration of the discussion on this forum.

I suppose berd immunity could end up not working but that woild go against effectively all known history so I'm comfortable not jumping into that panic narrative.
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No one who really knows about this crap wants us to try for herd immunity without a vaccine. That should tell you something.
 
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