Smyly would be a good one. There has been a few reports suggesting he's a TJ case waiting to happen though.
We do need a token lefty though
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Smyly would be a good one. There has been a few reports suggesting he's a TJ case waiting to happen though.
We do need a token lefty though
Short term versus long term....
The Braves are stocked with pitching. The further you get away from the MLB team, the better it is. The lower level pitchers appear to be much better than the ones who are closer to ML ready. This should not be a surprise. The Braves got most of this pitching through trades. Teams are reluctant to give up the top pitchers who are ML ready. Those are the guys they keep. They are more willing to trade guys who might be good but have questions, and guys who are further away. Wisler and Blair are guys with upside. We hope they will figure it out, but we can all see that the young guys in the system are probably better.
If they choose to go with a Garcia/Ruiz platoon next year, that is not a fail... That is a decision based on being much better next year, giving guys a chance to step up, and leaving some bullets in the gun for future years.
You have been ragging on them about waiting to compete for a few more years, yet you can't see that being competitive next year does not mean that the team is a finished product.
I think Wisler, Newcombe and Gant... and maybe Sims have the best chance, but I am anxious for them to get the chance. Certainly none of them should be dismissed.
I don't either. You just don't plan for any of them to be in the major league rotation and you let it happen naturally. 2 or 3 will step up, and then you trade away one from the rotation when they do.
Horsehide Harry
<B>Mr. Free Trade</B>
Bruce's option may not get picked up since he has mostly flopped with the Mets.
And I didn't say I LIKED any of these moves but this is what I expect the FO to do this offseason. Dickey eats innings and Peavy brings that back end stabilizing presence.
I think asking the FO to trade for a TOR starter is just wishful thinking and if they did it would be a horrible miscalculation and misapplication of assets - UNLESS they get a huge bargain.
I don't see it happening because of the Arizona/Atlanta recent history, but something LIKE trading for Greinke with the Dbacks paying a little and getting a decent prospect or two back might happen. I just don't see the Sale or Archer type moves everybody hopes for.
Ruiz and/or Garcia are not good enough to be the answer at 3B for a WC contending team. There are no players in the system ready to take over 3B within the next 3+ years. Next year's FA class is just as putrid as this upcoming FA class. Who exactly are they saving bullets for that will be blocked by a 2-3 year upgrade at 3B?
3B is the worst position on the roster (according to MLB ranking) and it also happens to be the one position with decent cost effective options available on the FA market. This is the absolute perfect time to sign a 2 year placeholder at 3B, and if this FA class is strong in any area it's guys that can play MLB average 3B and won't require more than 2-3 years. If they don't upgrade 3B, they failed. Simple as that really.
Russ2dollas
10 yr, $185 million Extension
I agree. Even if you have to overpay, we should be able to do it. I'd rather pay 2/40 than 4/60. Prob even 4/50. Short term deal and maybe get a team option or two on the back end.
I want to believe in Ruiz. Maybe he'll take the jump in power. He cleaned up his body this year so maybe the next offseason he can add functional strength. He's very young per level. But I still think you want a 2 year vet.
Unfortunately the pirates have just extended Freese for 2/11 with a 3rd year option plus some incentives. He would have been a good target, and that's exactly the type of deal I was hoping the Braves could get.
They also extended Cervelli earlier this year when he was my #1 choice for C this offseason.
Damn the Pirates!
They also extended Cervelli earlier this year when he was my #1 choice for C this offseason.
Damn the Pirates!
Depending on how long Shelby stays down he might be under control for 3 more years. He started the season with 3.030 years of service time. So basically 3 years 1 month. He would need to be down for roughly 6 weeks (assuming no CBA changes) to not be a FA after 2018. I know he struggled (understatement) but I wonder if the timing of the demotion had anything to do with this. Could be brought back up roughly when rosters expand and still miss that cutoff.
cajunrevenge
Well-known member
It would be hilarious if we traded 3 years of Shelby Miller and traded back for 3 years of Shelby Miller. I kind of wonder if the DBacks were trading him to the Marlins just as an FU to the Braves. Miller probably regains form at some point with the Marlins.
dak
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Dang, nice value for Pittsburgh. Freese would have fit our situation nicely. Pirates have one of the top 5 FO's in the game.
UNCBlue012
Well-known member
Catching should be our number one priority. Then looking to get a true power-hitting guy like Cespedes. I don't think he's as much of a dream scenario as we think. I doubt it happens, but him and Ramos would be an incredible offseason.
Albies 2B
Swanson SS
Freeman 1B
Cespedes LF
Ramos C
Inciarte CF
Peterson/Garcia 3B
Teheran RHP
M. Smith RF
That would easily allow us to have Ender and Mallex in the outfield and that would absolutely be a more than competitive lineup.
nonetheless, even just adding Ramos makes this lineup way better.
Albies 2B
Swanson SS
Freeman 1B
Cespedes LF
Ramos C
Inciarte CF
Peterson/Garcia 3B
Teheran RHP
M. Smith RF
That would easily allow us to have Ender and Mallex in the outfield and that would absolutely be a more than competitive lineup.
nonetheless, even just adding Ramos makes this lineup way better.
I think it's safe to say us spending 50 mil a season to sign Cespedes and Ramos would pretty much be dreaming. Not that he would sign with us anyway most likely due to us having the worst record in baseball, but trading for Kemp pretty much makes us not going after someone like Cespedes almost a certainty. I can see us making a big splash at catcher, but I hope it's more of a short term deal for someone or a trade for McCann, not Ramos (due to us having to pay out the nose).
Yep, we need to see those three and Blair given a chance next year to see what we have in them before the next batch gets called up. Keep the best two in the rotation and bring up Sims and Newcomb, then rinse and repeat.
nsacpi
Expects Yuge Games
I'd be ok with one vet to round out the rotation. But not two. I want the young uns to get opportunities.
JohnAdcox
Brian Jordan's New BFF
So what happens to Kemp in this scenario?
Agreed. I think it's a forgone conclusion the Braves acquire a veteran #3/4 to stabilize the rotation behind Teheran. I can see them going after an older LHer like Jorge De La Rosa who shouldn't require much of a commitment.