What about Josh Donaldson?

I would trade them Stella!, Heyward, Hale, and Bethancourt for Gray, Donaldson, Reddick, and Jaso.
 
Dalyn said:
They don't want CJ. Any trade involving him going to the A's probably isn't going to work. He's pretty much the opposite of what they are looking for.
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They would probably look at Kubitza and think he could develop into a player similar to Donaldson.
 
Come on guys, you're delusional if you think the A's are going to trade Donaldson for spare IF parts. The package starts with Gattis and Peraza, and may require even more.
 
Enscheff said:
Come on guys, you're delusional if you think the A's are going to trade Donaldson for spare IF parts. The package starts with Gattis and Peraza, and may require even more.
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Yep, probably have to trade Heyward to get him.
 
If Fredi stays and Heyward goes, I'll basically just frequent these boards solely to post in the "Aggravated Pimping", Criterion, beer, and books threads, along with—perhaps, and at most—some intermittent weird .gifs on the baseball side.
 
I think we match up pretty well for Donaldson. I think people are selling Gattis short. Beane will probably get him 600 at bat bats playing c, 1b, lf and he will hit 35 homers. Then after 2 years trade him for another haul. I think he will also like guys like La Stella, Gosselin, and Kubitza. I wouldn't give up Peraza and I don't think we would have to.
 
cajunrevenge said:
I think we match up pretty well for Donaldson. I think people are selling Gattis short. Beane will probably get him 600 at bat bats playing c, 1b, lf and he will hit 35 homers. Then after 2 years trade him for another haul. I think he will also like guys like La Stella, Gosselin, and Kubitza. I wouldn't give up Peraza and I don't think we would have to.
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So you think we can get Donaldson for Gattis, TLS, CJ, and spare parts?
 
I don't think they would want CJ at his salary. I would say a potential deal is Gattis - someone - and 2 of La Stella, Gosselin, Hale and Kubitza. I think Beane will certainly ask that that someone be Peraza but I think Hursh would be fair.

Beane looks for under valued players. I think if he gives La Stella 1 at bats starting at second he will develop into an above average player. Gosselin I think has a lot of value due to his position versatility. Kubitza because he has good OBP skills. Hale is a good swing man that is valuable when cheap.
 
jpx7 said:
If Fredi stays and Heyward goes, I'll basically just frequent these boards solely to post in the "Aggravated Pimping", Criterion, beer, and books threads, along with—perhaps, and at most—some intermittent weird .gifs on the baseball side.
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It's probably going to happen, so get those .gifs ready.
 
Before Beane even picks up the phone for Donaldson, Peraza/Simmons, Gattis and SIms have to be on the table. Don't know if I can pay that price. Maybe if we were keeping Heyward and Justin around I could see it as a long/short term move. Say we do Gattis, Simmons, Sims, and Victor Reyes for him.

2015 Braves

Jason
Justin
Freddie
Donaldson
TLS
Peraza
Bethancourt
Bossman.

The last half our lineup would feature one solid hitter, maybe 2 if Peraza can contribute immediately, and 2 sucky hitters. But our top 4 would rock and barring injury should all play 150 so we'd improve on the biggest issue with Gattis, health.
 
I just don't see any scenerio where BJ is still on this team next year. We need 2 starters so BJ for a bad contract pitcher is the perfect way to go. Edwin Jackson swap or a trade for Dickie would be the way I see it unfolding. But I agree JD will cost alot but would be a huge pickup. He'd be another young core piece to build around. If Peraza is still around I'd start him at 2b right out of the gate and see what he has at leadoff. But having Heyward, Freddie, Justin, and JD after him would be nasty.
 
Dickey is signed to liek a 1/14 contract or osmething like that no way the Jays trade BJ for him straight up unless they think they can fix BJ and we kick in some dough. Jackson has 2/22 so he's slightly more realistic if the Cubs are looking to sell him, it would be a 3 way deal where the cubs get rid of jackson we send a prospec tot them, they send cash and we send some to the 3rd team to cover BJ. But Jackson is owed half of bossman's salary so there's no way we trade him and don't eat part of his deal.
 
zitothebrave said:
Dickey is signed to liek a 1/14 contract or osmething like that no way the Jays trade BJ for him straight up unless they think they can fix BJ and we kick in some dough. Jackson has 2/22 so he's slightly more realistic if the Cubs are looking to sell him, it would be a 3 way deal where the cubs get rid of jackson we send a prospec tot them, they send cash and we send some to the 3rd team to cover BJ. But Jackson is owed half of bossman's salary so there's no way we trade him and don't eat part of his deal.
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Yup. We would have to kick in some money ($10-15M) in a Melvin for Jackson trade.

We have to kick in even more to get Dickey. Maybe Bethancourt and Pastornicky in addition to Melvin and money.

But those are kinds of trades we should be looking at.
 
Yeah we'll Def have to package him with somebody else. The better the player the less we have to eat. But we have to get rid of him.
 
The A's love young pitching, so saying they wouldn't love to have Wood, Sims, Hursch, etc is false imo, regardless of their needs.

I think any trade for Donaldson starts and ends with Peraza and Sims. If you aren't willing to give up both, you aren't getting Donaldson. And that is just the beginning. To keep them on the line, you're gonna have to add much more.

My offer would be Gattis, Sims, Peraza and Shae Simmons for Donaldson. That gives them 2 quality players that have played in the majors, and 2 quality prospects that are close.

Its important to me that if we make this trade, we have to be active in the FA market as well, because our system is already weak before this trade and we have to find a CFer/RFer and at least 2 rotation spots to fill, possiby 3 depending on what we do with Minor (prefer to bring him back). We also need to bring in some bench help and at least 1 quality reliever.
 
Carp said:
My offer would be Gattis, Sims, Peraza and Shae Simmons for Donaldson. That gives them 2 quality players that have played in the majors, and 2 quality prospects that are close.
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That is verging on a Tex-level package. No way. You are essentially giving up the long term solution at 2B/3B/CF, plus a quality setup guy, plus a long term solution in the middle of the rotation to get Gattis-level offensive production at 3B, while basically replacing CJ's terrible offense with CB's even worse offense.

The team becomes marginally better (if at all) in the short term, and is significantly worse in the long term.

If the Braves want to extend Justin and/or Heyward, they are going to need cheap solutions like Peraza, Sims and Shae at several roster spots. The only way a trade like this makes sense is if Justin or Jason are traded this offseason and Donaldson is brought in to replace that lost production, but in that scenario you still can't afford to lose the production of Gattis.
 
With Tigers bullpen blowing it again, I think they are ripe for the picking in dumping BJ.

Kimbrel
BJ

for

Nothing

No cash changes hands.

Sign me up.
 
Dalyn said:
WHAT!? No way.
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Again - you're overvaluing Kimbrel. If he allows us to get COMPLETELY out of BJ's contract, you have to do it. The guy only pitches 60 half innings a season - or 2% of the season. If I could dump BJ (with Kimbrel), that opens up $27M a year in salary relief. That lets us sign Heyward and Justin long term, and find a nice center fielder or Starting pitcher.
 
Yeah that's a ton for JD. He's controllable for the next 4-5 years so he'd be here for awhile. Shae Simmons I'd hold on to.
 
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