Around Baseball 2015 Edition

[NinersSBChamps]

Braves have a history of doing that. No reason anybody else should of had #25.

Well let's not act like Heyward is in the same breath as Andruw.

 

[thethe]

I wouldn't be surprised if that were the case, but I also don't see any reason to assume it is either. The only person connected to the Braves that has ever uttered anything negative concerning Heyward is DOB, and I don't think that carries any weight at all. It seems that the split was rather amicable.

But I could be wrong. There might be mutual resentment that no long term extension was worked out. I just don't think anybody really knows what exactly that situation is.

And Freddie is here long term as well. But if Heyward goes to a team that pays him 25+ then there was no cancel he would have stayed with the Braves.

 

[sturg33]

I wouldn't be surprised if that were the case, but I also don't see any reason to assume it is either. The only person connected to the Braves that has ever uttered anything negative concerning Heyward is DOB, and I don't think that carries any weight at all. It seems that the split was rather amicable.

But I could be wrong. There might be mutual resentment that no long term extension was worked out. I just don't think anybody really knows what exactly that situation is.

Seemed like Heyward was a bit agitated at the time

 

[thethe]

Defense matters at all positions. Other wise why are you trying to compare WAR with Justin and Jace. If LF defense doesn't matter then why penalize Justin for what WAR says how bad he is?

That's a fair point. Justin is getting to the point though where it isn't even passable.

 

[NinersSBChamps]

Didn't say it was sacred... but to give it away to the direct replacement immediately after trading the guy?

Who cares? It's a number and Jason is gone.

 

[thewupk]

Well I think a franchise player is elite in both areas. Maybe you have a less stringent definition of a franchise player than I do.

I prefer the overall approach. Andruw was a franchise player despite being wildly inconsistent at the plate.

 

[sturg33]

Who cares? It's a number and Jason is gone.

I know he's gone. I said I wish they hadn't given his number away immediately bc it seemingly further burns the bridge

We theoretically could have re-signed him this offseason...

 

[BRule]

I wish the Braves didn't give Markakis #22... just seemed like a middle finger to Heyward

Or 45 mil!

HIIIIIIII YOOOOOOOOO

 

[thewupk]

Well let's not act like Heyward is in the same breath as Andruw.

I'm not. Just saying that they have a history of dolling out numbers of really good players that leave on dubious terms.

 

[zbhargrove]

I prefer the overall approach. Andruw was a franchise player despite being wildly inconsistent at the plate.

He was Babe Ruth at the plate compared with Heyward, let's not get silly. Andruw had multiple MVP type years.

If Andruw was wildly inconsistent then what does that make Heyward??

 

[chop2chip]

Didn't say it was sacred... but to give it away to the direct replacement immediately after trading the guy?

Well Marky Mark wore #21 in Baltimore and that number is retired in Atlanta. I'm sure Nick just requested it and I don't think not rejecting that request shows any maliciousness towards Heyward.

I think we fans care more about that stuff than players do.

 

[thewupk]

That's a fair point. Justin is getting to the point though where it isn't even passable.

He's not in Dunn territory yet but he should go to an AL team where he can DH half the time.

 

[BRule]

Come on man...everyone knows what you do by now

So no one can post anything about Heyward in a thread dedicated to other MLB teams/players/games? Got it

Seems to me like certain posters are sensitive to certain topics.

If I wanted to troll, I can certainly do better than "Heyward hit a HR"

 

[thethe]

So no one can post anything about Heyward in a thread dedicated to other MLB teams/players/games? Got it

Seems to me like certain posters are sensitive to certain topics.

If I wanted to troll, I can certainly do better than "Heyward hit a HR"

Do you post anything in this section of the forum other than something to be negative?

 

[chop2chip]

Seemed like Heyward was a bit agitated at the time

What did he say? I don't remember anything that screams agitation other than him saying he wish he had the opportunity to sign a long term extension which only a middle school girl could spin that to mean animosity.

 

[zbhargrove]

So no one can post anything about Heyward in a thread dedicated to other MLB teams/players/games? Got it

Seems to me like certain posters are sensitive to certain topics.

If I wanted to troll, I can certainly do better than "Heyward hit a HR"

You are the king of sensitive posters

 

[thewupk]

He was Babe Ruth at the plate compared with Heyward, let's not get silly. Andruw had multiple MVP type years.

Andruw had a career WRC+ of 111. Heyward's career WRC+ is 116. Let's not get confused here. Andruw did have several MVP type years because he's the greatest defensive OF of all time. Offensively though? Left a lot to be desired at times. Kind of like Heyward. In the end both were good hitters.

 

[BRule]

Do you post anything in this section of the forum other than something to be negative?

Yes, I posted how dumb I thought the Porcello contract was.

 

[BRule]

You are the king of sensitive posters

False

 

[chop2chip]

Andruw had a career WRC+ of 111. Heyward's career WRC+ is 116. Let's not get confused here. Andruw did have several MVP type years because he's the greatest defensive OF of all time. Offensively though? Left a lot to be desired at times. Kind of like Heyward. In the end both were good hitters.

I do think Andruw was a better hitter. I know we have to adjust for era, but it seems there's an obvious reason to why we have to adjust for Andruw's era. wRC+ is unfair to the clean players that played in that era.