Global Events & Politics Überthread

striker42 said:
It's not 8% of consumption, it's 8% of imports. The US is a massive producer of oil as well. So oil obtained and used domestically wouldn't be counted in that figure.

Also, Russian oil imports were already crashing without Biden doing anything. The 8% isn't terribly difficult to replace from other sources and that process had already started as companies didn't want the baggage and risks that came along with buying Russian oil.
Click to expand...

Russian oil exports are crashing because the banks are not sure the transactions can be made with the current sanctions regime. Even though oil and gas are not being sanctioned. It is difficult to find a counterparty in Russia to clear oil and gas sales with. It could become a situation that Russia can sell oil and gas but proceeds have to be kept offshore. There was a piece in the WSJ last week about Russian oil producers offering oil at a discount because no one wanted it. It was a pretty big discount. Something like $20 per barrel.
 
striker42 said:
It's not 8% of consumption, it's 8% of imports. The US is a massive producer of oil as well. So oil obtained and used domestically wouldn't be counted in that figure.

Also, Russian oil imports were already crashing without Biden doing anything. The 8% isn't terribly difficult to replace from other sources and that process had already started as companies didn't want the baggage and risks that came along with buying Russian oil.
Click to expand...

You are right. Thats an important distinction.
 
striker42 said:
It's not 8% of consumption, it's 8% of imports. The US is a massive producer of oil as well. So oil obtained and used domestically wouldn't be counted in that figure.

Also, Russian oil imports were already crashing without Biden doing anything. The 8% isn't terribly difficult to replace from other sources and that process had already started as companies didn't want the baggage and risks that came along with buying Russian oil.
Click to expand...

agreed.

something that never gets brought up is the US and Canada basically trade oil where it’s convenient. There’s no point in getting the oil and sending it from Houston to Canada. But oil from Alberta to the Pacific Northwest and plains, or oil from North Dakota towards Winnipeg etc happens so often.

the US is the biggest consumer of oil worldwide. We export a bunch.
 
FNWZJVFXoAA3QhV
 
thethe said:
Such a hysterically bad analogy.

Do you want to compare the actions of Hitler and Putin both domestically and Internafionally?

Media has really trained you guys well to be even able to make you think of such a comparison.
Click to expand...


You're the guy who's been saying we should have been working with Putin since day 1 because we worked with Stalin to take down Hitler.

Your analogies are always conveniently making sense from your point of view. And when people tell you how outrageous they are, you simply just tell everyone they're being conditioned or mind-controlled to think things and that you and sturg are Ms. Cleo.
 
The Chosen One said:
You're the guy who's been saying we should have been working with Putin since day 1 because we worked with Stalin to take down Hitler.

Your analogies are always conveniently making sense from your point of view. And when people tell you how outrageous they are, you simply just tell everyone they're being conditioned or mind-controlled to think things and that you and sturg are Ms. Cleo.
Click to expand...

There is a pesky little thing like a record on these types of things. Continue to pretend I haven't been pretty good on my calls the past few years.
 
It's been interesting how Russia has made other bad actors around the world seem cuddly by comparison. There's now a lot more pressure to get a new agreement with Iran and Biden sent officials to Venezuela.
 
I'm curious how much those extra planes will actually help. Trained pilots are typically more sparse than planes.
 
The Chosen One said:
You're the guy who's been saying we should have been working with Putin since day 1 because we worked with Stalin to take down Hitler.

Your analogies are always conveniently making sense from your point of view. And when people tell you how outrageous they are, you simply just tell everyone they're being conditioned or mind-controlled to think things and that you and sturg are Ms. Cleo.
Click to expand...

But have you considered that MSM is to blame? Have you heard the good word, that the media is your enemy?
 
Jaw said:
I'm curious how much those extra planes will actually help. Trained pilots are typically more sparse than planes.
Click to expand...

Yeah, it's one of the reasons why Japanese pilots started the Kamikaze attacks, was because they could build Zero's much faster than they could train pilots.
 
Jaw said:
I'm curious how much those extra planes will actually help. Trained pilots are typically more sparse than planes.
Click to expand...

It depends. A military trying to stretch it's budget might not have enough planes to accommodate the number of pilots it has. There may also be some people who were pilots trained on these that left the military in recent years and are now coming back. They might also be open to using pilots who washed out of their fighter jet program but who have piloted things like cargo planes. So there are some ways I could see them having more pilots than planes.

I can't imagine the US is orchestrating this without knowing it's something the Ukranians need.
 
Jaw said:
I'm curious how much those extra planes will actually help. Trained pilots are typically more sparse than planes.
Click to expand...

Yeah. I think that's a bigger constraint. They are probably getting some guys to come out of retirement. Maybe accelerate training. And probably a few volunteers from abroad.

Interesting historical footnote: the Battle of Britain featured quite a few foreign ringers fighting for the RAF. According to wikipedia, their numbers included 145 Poles, 127 New Zealanders, 112 Canadians, 88 Czechoslovaks, 10 Irish, 32 Aussies, 28 Belgians, 25 South Africans (one related to me), 13 French, 9 Americans, 3 Rhodesians and 1 each from Barbados, Jamaica and Newfoundland.

There were also these guys, who for some reason are omitted from the wiki list. Maybe they were British citizens. But I kinda doubt it.

wvi1wKU.jpeg
 
Last edited:
striker42 said:
It depends. A military trying to stretch it's budget might not have enough planes to accommodate the number of pilots it has. There may also be some people who were pilots trained on these that left the military in recent years and are now coming back. They might also be open to using pilots who washed out of their fighter jet program but who have piloted things like cargo planes. So there are some ways I could see them having more pilots than planes.

I can't imagine the US is orchestrating this without knowing it's something the Ukranians need.
Click to expand...

I think you’re probably right about the need for planes, but if there’s one thing I’ll never doubt, it’s the American Military’s ability to be wasteful with resources.
 
mqt said:
I think you’re probably right about the need for planes, but if there’s one thing I’ll never trust, it’s the American Military’s ability to be wasteful with resources.
Click to expand...

Russia has shown just how much more wasteful they can be with 10x smaller budget.
 
Let’s see how hard the media tries to suppress the fact that the US has biolabs in the Ukraine. Do we get to know what was being researched there and why so close to Russia?
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top