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    DRAFT IN PROGRESS THREAD ... What's past is preamble

    If we had been drafting at 10, we'd have had $3.2 million less in our signing pool and wouldn't have been able to afford Wentz. And getting Wentz isn't a small talent bump at 40; Sickels had him going top 15 or "possibly top 10" barring high signing demands.
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    DRAFT IN PROGRESS THREAD ... What's past is preamble

    But the same logic holds for Wentz; if he were willing to sign for slot, he'd have been top 15., and writers have had Anderson going in the top 10 as recently as mid-May. I think you're seriously overrating the gap between Puk/Groome/Pint and Anderson/Wentz, and underrating the gap between...
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    ENOUGH. Call up Swanson, trade for a hitter...

    Oh yeah, I absolutely agree that the team probably won't be awful next year and that we should start looking to build on it. I'm even in favor of trading Teheran if it brings us back a Benintendi or Bregman. I'm just not in favor of spending prospects to get Jay "-1.2 WAR since 2013" Bruce or...
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    ENOUGH. Call up Swanson, trade for a hitter...

    Well, this is good evidence of why fans would not make good GMs. We suck this year, we're supposed to suck this year. It's still only May, so you need to either stop watching the team or figure out some way to watch that keeps you sane (I mainly tune in to watch our young pitchers). Panic...
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    Vizcaino trade market?

    Yeah I don't disagree that we'll have to stop the prospect stockpiling at some point, I just don't think that time is now. You've still got Swanson/Albies/Newcomb/Sims/Blair/Folty who haven't established themselves in the majors yet, but stand to see significant playing time by 2017. I'm fine...
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    Vizcaino trade market?

    Edit: Seems he did get Super Two status and has 3 years of arby. I stand corrected. Unless the FO seriously believes we will be in contention for a playoff spot in 2017 (and I mean actually believes, not just saying so for PR reasons), there is no reason to commit to winning in 2017...
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    Vizcaino trade market?

    That's true, but he's also a hard thrower with an injury history and a steroid suspension, with only 2 years of team control left after this season. I'd rather trade him for a nice haul that fills a need than hold out for an overpay and risk him losing most or all of his trade value.
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    Catchers

    I have a suspicion that a lot of this dropoff is due to the recent emphasis on pitch-framing when valuing catchers. I believe (although I might be mistaken), that the defensive component of fWAR does not take pitch framing ability into account. Assuming that's true, it could lead to a number...
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    Julion Teheran over the Years

    That can change as you age. As someone with older parents who moved 14 hours from home after college - it was awesome to be out on my own for a couple of years, until I realized my dad would be 70 before I got to see him more than a couple of times a year. Thinking about that lost time can...
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    Julion Teheran over the Years

    I've been in the 'don't deal him unless you get a haul' camp for a while, but I've begun to tip toward trading him. Obviously it all depends on what we actually get offered, but I think the combination of a weak SP market and his good pitching of late mean his value is probably close to its...
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    Julion Teheran over the Years

    My main worry with the Astros is that the big prospects I'd want from them - Reed and Bregman - are both at positions where the MLB club has holes. If Houston continues to struggle this year and Gattis and their 3B platoon haven't turned things around, I could easily see them deciding to stand...
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    Julion Teheran over the Years

    The scouting reports I see say Bregman has a good glove and arm, and that the main knock on his defense at SS is range. That sounds like it would probably play at 3B. He also evidently will be starting at 3B in the minors on Friday. Looking at his numbers, he is on fire right now; I know he...
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    Fredi fired

    If you don't think every official or representative of an organization is going to try to spin situations like this in the rosiest possible light, I don't know what to tell you. And no, I don't think he needs to be "held accountable" for saying he hoped to the team would be competitive before...
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    Fredi fired

    Are you guys just underestimating how bad the team has been thus far or what? The team is on pace to go 39-123. That's farther from last year's team (67-95) than last year's team was from making the playoffs. That is what Hart meant by his comment, and I don't think it's an indictment of...
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    Fredi fired

    I don't think you have to be a Fredi supporter to think that was a pretty bad mistake. I certainly wanted him gone, but I expected it to be done in a professional way.
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    GTD: braves at pirates new era begins

    "Not sure what the scouts saw with Glavine. Wish we got a higher ceiling arm." -atl717, September 1987
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    Fredi fired

    Why do non-statheads always assume that when someone brings up stats to make point that's literally the only thing they think should ever inform a baseball decision? I use stats in discussion because, as a baseball fan who is not affiliated with the Braves organization, it's the only thing I...
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    Fredi fired

    This is interesting timing. I thought not playing Castro/Beckham last night was fairly stupid and contributed pretty directly to the loss, but I wouldn't expect the FO to make this kind of decision based on something like that. Still, seems strange to fire him in the middle of a series on a...
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    Folty

    I feel like a lot of people here underestimate the value of Teheran's contract. We're in a world where it takes $22 million/year to sign Jordan Zimmerman, and Teheran is signed through 2020 with an AAV of ~$8 million in the remaining years. Assuming 2015 was just an aberration (and it looks...
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    Folty

    We could also include a Markakis/Sandoval swap in the deal. The Red Sox would have to include a lot of money in that case, but the money gives the teams an avenue to negotiate value without having to add more players.
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