sturg33
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Lol 57 hates her?
Sorry she's on every media show in existence. That's the left and the media boosting her. The fact that she is so stupid, and complains when called on it, is on her.
And hey, you complain when she's called on it too! Cute
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Lol 57 hates her?
Sorry she's on every media show in existence. That's the left and the media boosting her. The fact that she is so stupid, and complains when called on it, is on her.
And hey, you complain when she's called on it too! Cute
I'm not worried about AOC. She poses no real threat to the party right now. The media is all over her because she's the shiny new toy. Dennis Kucinich had positions just as far left as her, and he never got this much attention.
57 posts tweets and lots of tweets. I think everyone who posts on this sub knows that. You on the other hand don't appear to hesitate to attack or rant about AOC whenever.
sturg33
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As 57 has reminded us, she has single handedly changed the convo to radically new ideas that are getting massive support amongst the base.
We should talk about them, no? We should call out bull **** if it is bull ****, no?
57Brave
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A long time ago, Bush43 era, we got into a discussion where a poster had no idea what I was talking about because he wasn't aware of instances that, happened.
Kinda like if today a poster here denying Stone was indicted yesterday level wasn't aware.
I started posting articles and op eds so, everyone could be on the same current event page.
Same poster rightfully protested it was too much asking to just break it down to bullet points.
Along came twitter
If one goes back to the first page of Economics the conversation / issues were totally different.
Very little if any about income inequality. Mostly about how to make those "dats gots" get more . And RW op-ed and manufactured graphs to prove the point those posters wanted to prove
AOC is a controversial figure for a reason. There is nothing new she is saying as Sav pointed out. But, her approach to politics is proving constant and effective
The proof in the pudding is down the road. (Ala Trump. No denying in 2019 his Presidency is a disaster where there were still many defending him 2017. Not so many anymore)
Not only for her (the messenger) but the ideas (message) she is pushing to the center of the table
Surprised no one (not only here but a blogger somewhere) mentioned the mission / outgrowth of the Occupy Movement pointing out a resurgence of its goal slowly becoming mainstream conversation
No matter how much talk goes on every time a (D) think tank produces a set of numbers there will be a RW think tank to counter. As it should be
But please understand what "data" is. Data is nothing more than a collection of numbers pro and con to get to an answer. Not the "truth" but an answer
Data isn't fact and it is tell tale when one discusses one set of numbers presented as "data" to prove a point. Data must be contextualized. In scientific circles one wouldn't last through first year grad school let alone be considered a scientist using the method of here is data. It checks all of the boxes. Spare me one sided numbers
So yeah, thee are conflicting numbers. But the goals which is what I take it she is talking about... those are definitely up for debate.
As in I think we need comprehensive Green planning to a) substitue our addiction to fossil fuels and b) it must be seen as a huge part of 21st century industry. Not so much we cant even talk about this because her numbers dont add up point of view
Understand there is "data" showing Nick Markakus to be a horrible OFer yet as we learned, if positioned correctly he can be effective
Kinda like if today a poster here denying Stone was indicted yesterday level wasn't aware.
I started posting articles and op eds so, everyone could be on the same current event page.
Same poster rightfully protested it was too much asking to just break it down to bullet points.
Along came twitter
If one goes back to the first page of Economics the conversation / issues were totally different.
Very little if any about income inequality. Mostly about how to make those "dats gots" get more . And RW op-ed and manufactured graphs to prove the point those posters wanted to prove
AOC is a controversial figure for a reason. There is nothing new she is saying as Sav pointed out. But, her approach to politics is proving constant and effective
The proof in the pudding is down the road. (Ala Trump. No denying in 2019 his Presidency is a disaster where there were still many defending him 2017. Not so many anymore)
Not only for her (the messenger) but the ideas (message) she is pushing to the center of the table
Surprised no one (not only here but a blogger somewhere) mentioned the mission / outgrowth of the Occupy Movement pointing out a resurgence of its goal slowly becoming mainstream conversation
No matter how much talk goes on every time a (D) think tank produces a set of numbers there will be a RW think tank to counter. As it should be
But please understand what "data" is. Data is nothing more than a collection of numbers pro and con to get to an answer. Not the "truth" but an answer
Data isn't fact and it is tell tale when one discusses one set of numbers presented as "data" to prove a point. Data must be contextualized. In scientific circles one wouldn't last through first year grad school let alone be considered a scientist using the method of here is data. It checks all of the boxes. Spare me one sided numbers
So yeah, thee are conflicting numbers. But the goals which is what I take it she is talking about... those are definitely up for debate.
As in I think we need comprehensive Green planning to a) substitue our addiction to fossil fuels and b) it must be seen as a huge part of 21st century industry. Not so much we cant even talk about this because her numbers dont add up point of view
Understand there is "data" showing Nick Markakus to be a horrible OFer yet as we learned, if positioned correctly he can be effective
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50PoundHead
Hessmania Forever
At the risk of making fat a feminist issue, my conjecture is if Ocasio-Cortez were 300 pounds and had a bad hairstyle, no one would be paying attention to her. I always found Claire McCaskill to be pretty weak soup (and extremely lucky in terms of electoral politics), but she hit it on the head in her post-election interview when calling Ocasio-Cortez a "bright and shiny new object" that "came out of nowhere."
Julio3000
<B>A Chip Off the Old Rock</B>
What’s the misinformation, in this case?
Kids are dying is extremely misleading as if it has anything to do with ICE. But its fine, some new polling is coming out that hispanics are among the most in favor of border enforecement and stoppijg illegal immigration. The message is getting out that open borders are hurting minorities more than white people.
But the koch brothers and Bezos of the world will make sure the liberal sheep think its about racism.
But the koch brothers and Bezos of the world will make sure the liberal sheep think its about racism.
Koch brothers support open borders and unfettered immigration. Works well for rich people but not for middle class and lesser IS citizens.
sturg33
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As do I... they also support eliminating the welfare system & minimum wage which would solve the illegal immigration problem you're worried about
Open border will always invite mass immigration whoch will always drive wages down as well as invite criminal elements. Its a hard pass for me and more and more americans are starting to feep the same way.
sturg33
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I'm pretty sure you've made a left turn to socialism like 3 days ago. It's weird. Seems like you're just following whatever Tucker Carlson says. Let me know if I'm wrong.
Ive always been against big corporations like walmart. My record on these forums will prove that for over 10 years.
Ive also been strong against illegal immigration because of the crime/drugs/wages.
So what ideas that ive been pushing are new?
Surprising that there is no comment on this.
I think its clear which party owns bigotry now.
sturg33
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Between the full out embrace of socialism, the rampant anti-semitism, and celebrating late term abortion legislation, I don't blame folks for keeping quiet.
Would be nice if they spoke up though
As the veil gets fully taken off Americans will reject the left more and more.
We are already seeing from Pew that the majority of Democrats want their party to move more to center.
As you have said on many occasions...the left has absolutely lost their mind.
Kamala Harris literally just had to walkback her medicare policies in less than 24 hours because once Americans are told they can't keep their private health insurer support for medicare for all drops to under 40%. Wait till they understand how much their taxes increase.