2016 Election Coverage: Aka Every Way You Look at it You Lose.
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Wow. You're the only guy here with any sort of knowledge on how taxes work and the government operates. Stupid me for not knowing freebies aren't free.
sturg33
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Don't forget... the 1 percent can pay for it all right? As Bernie said in the debate- free tuition, all student loan debt paid, 15 min wage, universal health care for all including immigrants... all on the 1%... truly brilliant. I can't figure out why Bernie was so popular with the college kids. When they aren't attending "cry ins" they're getting paid to be alive from the rich.
And there's that whole Venezuela and bread lines thing....
And there's that whole Venezuela and bread lines thing....
50PoundHead
Hessmania Forever
sturg33
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http://www.usatoday.com/story/opini...n-reynolds-column/93765568/?hl=1&noRedirect=1
PlayDoh parties, cry-ins and coloring books... In college. This is why we have a student loan crisis. People not mature enough to face reality who fall apart when their expectations aren't met.
It's okay to be sad about losing the election. It's not okay to go to a coloring book crying when you're 20 years old after losing the election.
PlayDoh parties, cry-ins and coloring books... In college. This is why we have a student loan crisis. People not mature enough to face reality who fall apart when their expectations aren't met.
It's okay to be sad about losing the election. It's not okay to go to a coloring book crying when you're 20 years old after losing the election.
Jaw
It's OVER 5,000!
Great find Bedell. One line from this article sums up so much of what I felt, and heard, and still hear, from reluctant Trump voters:
"Meanwhile, Hillary Clinton informed one audience that Christians would have to change their beliefs on some issues."
Scripture doesn't change with time or societal pressure or any other factor. It is bedrock, it is immovable.
I am no fan of Donald Trump. But I feel like the modern Democratic party left me no choice but to vote against them in this election. I will continue to do so until they make major changes.
Jaw
It's OVER 5,000!
Here is another, far more childish, version of the same basic premise from the ultra conservative, anti Trump, Erick Erickson:
http://theresurgent.com/i-would-like-to-thank-the-american-left/
What’s more, you have bought into and believe all the rhetoric and nonsense pushed by your activists who really do loathe conservatives, Christians, and white people who live outside the gentrified areas of left-wing controlled cities.
In trying to enforce skin deep diversity with cultural homogeneity, you pissed off a lot of lot of people and woke the proverbial sleeping giant. This is what you get when you have the audacity to believe a 70 year old florist should be hounded from business for not wanting to provide flowers for a gay wedding.
Your pride and open contempt for other opinions got the better of you.
I share a lot of your concerns, but I want to give President-elect Trump the benefit of the doubt. I am not afraid to publicly disagree with him. But your temper tantrum of the past forty-eight hours is rapidly helping me come to terms with and appreciate Trump’s election.
Your tears are sweet nectar to many of us. Your demands for silence of dissent, your constant cries of racism and sexism when there was none, your insistence that boys and girls can change their gender and we all have to accept it, etc. have gotten you to this point.
http://theresurgent.com/i-would-like-to-thank-the-american-left/
What’s more, you have bought into and believe all the rhetoric and nonsense pushed by your activists who really do loathe conservatives, Christians, and white people who live outside the gentrified areas of left-wing controlled cities.
In trying to enforce skin deep diversity with cultural homogeneity, you pissed off a lot of lot of people and woke the proverbial sleeping giant. This is what you get when you have the audacity to believe a 70 year old florist should be hounded from business for not wanting to provide flowers for a gay wedding.
Your pride and open contempt for other opinions got the better of you.
I share a lot of your concerns, but I want to give President-elect Trump the benefit of the doubt. I am not afraid to publicly disagree with him. But your temper tantrum of the past forty-eight hours is rapidly helping me come to terms with and appreciate Trump’s election.
Your tears are sweet nectar to many of us. Your demands for silence of dissent, your constant cries of racism and sexism when there was none, your insistence that boys and girls can change their gender and we all have to accept it, etc. have gotten you to this point.
acesfull86
Well-known member
Bernie's math is a disaster, but I haven't seen Trump show his work yet, and it's one of my fears of his presidency. Massive tax cuts (great), $1T in infrastructure (hmm...), no cuts in entitlements/defense and maybe even an increase (ugh). I haven't analyzed the numbers, but I'd be willing to bet his team is overestimating repatriated funds they think they'll get from corporations and are far too optimistic on the growth they think they'll be able to spur.
Republicans have long talked a big game on being the party of small, responsible govt without walking the walk. I hope Trump supporters will hold him accountable, but I have my doubts.
sturg33
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Trump's math doesn't add up at all.
He also never really ran on small government, unfortunately.
I think Trump's bet is on a combination of renegotiated trade deals, tightening of regulations on tax shelters and multi-national corporations, stimulus vis–à–vis infrastructural investment, and measured slashes to entitlements and porky/pet organizations. I think he'll grow defense exponentially - everything he's talked about in this realm for virtually the past three decades signals him using the military as a kind of commercial enterprise, which is actually fascinating to consider.
What the **** does it hurt, though? You can thump your chest all you want about those crazy sensitive liberals, but having a "safe space" to help people cope with something that terrifies them is not going to hurt anything.
Isn't it comical that the question was whether trump and his supporter would protest the election. Imagine the smugness if this was asked about liberals prior to the election results?
If a Trump supporter felt as though they needed a safe space, I'd be cool with them having it. People are genuinely upset, and these on-campus things are harmless. Let's not act like the world of academia is some bastion of real world toughness. This is no different than anything else that happens on campuses.
In general, this notion of needing a 'safe space' or a 'free talk zone' is a bit puzzling to me. One of the most important things I learned in undergrad was how to confidently articulate and defend my beliefs and opinions, and I think that was sound preparation for my post-graduate reality.
I understand that the diversification of peoples and attitudes is the new new in the collegiate sphere - but isn't that why there are clubs and organizations? If you don't like Trump join the College Democrats or the College Anarchists or start a #NeverTrump chapter. What actual good are we doing if we teach the future working class that adversity should be dealt with by kneading Play-doh, petting dogs, and in general, withering in disbelief?
George Carlin would've had a heyday with this.
I understand that the diversification of peoples and attitudes is the new new in the collegiate sphere - but isn't that why there are clubs and organizations? If you don't like Trump join the College Democrats or the College Anarchists or start a #NeverTrump chapter. What actual good are we doing if we teach the future working class that adversity should be dealt with by kneading Play-doh, petting dogs, and in general, withering in disbelief?
George Carlin would've had a heyday with this.
Runnin
Well-known member
In more bizarre news, Ben Carson seems to have turned down a cabinet post, perhaps the one post he might have some expertise - Sec. of Health and Human Services, saying that he didn't feel he was qualified since he had no experience in government.
"Dr. Carson feels he has no government experience, he's never run a federal agency. The last thing he would want to do was take a position that could cripple the presidency."
"Dr. Carson feels he has no government experience, he's never run a federal agency. The last thing he would want to do was take a position that could cripple the presidency."
50PoundHead
Hessmania Forever
Sounds like a lot of Keynes in that solution.