2018 Offseason And Targets

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I seriously think that this is just Bowman speculating about dumb crap. I seriously doubt we decide to move Folty or Inciarte. From a roster construction point of view, it just doesn't make any sense. Not unless he is getting incredible value on some deal that we haven't heard about.
 
Bowman tweeted within 45 minutes that :

1) teams have the sense that the Braves are willing to trade Folty AND
2) the Braves have made it clear to teams that asked that they are NOT willing to trade Folty.
 
Braves1976 said:
it could also mean trading Swanson, Newk or Teheran etc.
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That would be in the middle between the two points. It's just too vague to draw any conclusions from. Intentionally so.

The guy I think might have a lot of teams after him is Camargo. I think there are probably a fair number of teams that would start him at short or third. He's tremendously valuable to us as a super-utility player but a team that would start him probably values him more. With us signing JD, I think that rang a bell for other teams to inquire.
 
dak said:
I definitely like the idea of selling high on established MLB players and am glad to see Folty's name mentioned. Personally, I think there's a much better chance he takes a modest step backwards to a 2-3 WAR player versus maintaining a 3-4 WAR level.
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I dont entirely disagree with this but the Braves arent the Rays where they gotta trade every good player before they get expensive. It would have to be a ****ing haul to move Folty or getting an established outfielder like Haniger but i'm not sure why the M's would want Folty when they're rebuilding. Hypothetical but it would be a false report.

And Folty has the pure stuff to become a legit ace, one of the rare few the Braves have who could be that. Not saying he's untouchable but i dont see how the Brave get better moving him.
 
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Southcack77 said:
Bowman tweeted within 45 minutes that :

1) teams have the sense that the Braves are willing to trade Folty AND
2) the Braves have made it clear to teams that asked that they are NOT willing to trade Folty.
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He and DOB both suck, they seem to only know anything big after the fact and are pretty much dead wrong on trade speculation a lot.
 
striker42 said:
That would be in the middle between the two points. It's just too vague to draw any conclusions from. Intentionally so.

The guy I think might have a lot of teams after him is Camargo. I think there are probably a fair number of teams that would start him at short or third. He's tremendously valuable to us as a super-utility player but a team that would start him probably values him more. With us signing JD, I think that rang a bell for other teams to inquire.
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i expect just like Albies many have asked about Camargo but i rather not trade either one.
 
bravesfanMatt said:
Is that better than the Mutts offer. They did get rid of a big chunck of Cano.
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Would imagine that was the deciding factor. AA didn't really have salaries he needed to send back badly enough to be willing to try to find a place for Cano to play and take on his salary.

Nobody ever discussed whether playing Cano in LF might've been a legitimate option (can't imagine it would have been), and the option of having him eventually replace Freddie at !B rather than extending him wasn't talked about either that I recall.
 
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Braves1976 said:
im not saying you're wrong but if im trading him i'd need an overpay by some team.
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Agreed. My view is that if there's a team out there that values him in the 3-4 annual WAR range for his remaining years of control, the return would make sense for the Braves given their depth of RH SPs.
 
Southcack77 said:
Bowman tweeted within 45 minutes that :

1) teams have the sense that the Braves are willing to trade Folty AND
2) the Braves have made it clear to teams that asked that they are NOT willing to trade Folty.
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Would you trade Folty & Inciarte plus, if it brought back Bauer and Kluber..? I'd have to seriously consider that deal. Even though i'm not a big Bauer fan, if we got both that would be sick...

Kluber
Bauer
Newk
Gausman
Teheran
 
dak said:
Agreed. My view is that if there's a team out there that values him in the 3-4 annual WAR range for his remaining years of control, the return would make sense for the Braves given their depth of RH SPs.
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Bowman is a joke, he starts that rumor and then kills it himself. Not surprising given Bowman's love for Folty.
 
Braves1976 said:
indians won't be trading both, just one of the two.
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They are in a really weak division. If the Braves offered Folty, who showed potential to be a very good #2 with a possibility of a #1, would that be a better package to move both, rather than taking a lesser package for 1?

Just thinking outside the box.
 
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Sources : Braves LHP Sean Newcomb is a name to watch if Miami & Atlanta get serious on Realmuto. No deal is close, but I’ve heard his name come up in another possible trade variation with the two clubs.

now this is a rumor that sounds like something AA would try.
 
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@CraigMish
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Sources : Braves LHP Sean Newcomb is a name to watch if Miami & Atlanta get serious on Realmuto. No deal is close, but I’ve heard his name come up in another possible trade variation with the two clubs.
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Mish is usually good but he just said weeks ago it was Riley and Soroka.
 
Carp said:
The only major league players with much value we should consider trading are Newk, Camargo, and maybe Dansby and Gausman. All other players are not easily replaceable and/or would just create another hole.
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someone like Fried might be considered a major league player
 
bravesfanforlife88 said:
They are in a really weak division. If the Braves offered Folty, who showed potential to be a very good #2 with a possibility of a #1, would that be a better package to move both, rather than taking a lesser package for 1?

Just thinking outside the box.
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i am pretty sure their gm said they are only looking at moving one of the two on mlb network iirc.
 
Braves1976 said:
@CraigMish
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Sources : Braves LHP Sean Newcomb is a name to watch if Miami & Atlanta get serious on Realmuto. No deal is close, but I’ve heard his name come up in another possible trade variation with the two clubs.

now this is a rumor that sounds like something AA would try.
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I’d say yes 50 times over.
 
Carp said:
The only major league players with much value we should consider trading are Newk, Camargo, and maybe Dansby and Gausman. All other players are not easily replaceable and/or would just create another hole.
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This (and other posts) assumes an awful lot.

It would seem strange to the vast majority of us, but we don't KNOW that Folty wasn't one of the arms that AA wanted a better look at before he made a big trade. I don't think that was the case either, but can't recall a single time when AA has indicated that Folty was untouchable or unavailable - and a written in stone part of what he was building.

I can't imagine going that way either, but maybe AA and his people were convinced enough by what they saw last season to believe that Folty's step-forward was a mirage based on what they saw in the playoffs. It's unlikely, sure, but if the Indians are decidedly higher on Folty than AA is and Folty and Waters get you Kluber, it would only bump payroll ~ $11 million this year IF Kluber wins the Cy Young.

If push comes to shove, one has to admit they feel there's a lot more chance Kluber could be an Ace and win a CYA - I certainly do anyway.
 
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