2022 Spring Training Thread

thewupk said:
For me that was the biggest frustration last year.
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Same. At least now if every single BP arm is legit, and the pitcher never hits, he can't make a choice that truly matters.

Literally all he has to do it stack Acuna, Olson, Albies, Ozuna and Riley in the top half of the lineup in some manner, and the talent on this roster should take care of the rest. I guess that's how you boomer-proof anything really.
 
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I'll always judge a manager by the results over the long run vs what could have been expected. First, there can be factors playing into in game decisions we don't know about. Players are sometimes unavailable but it's not publicly known. Sometimes you have a player that might be struggling mentally and doesn't need to be put in a high pressure situation. Sometimes you have young guys who need to be treated with kid gloves.

We also don't know how much analytics play a roll in in game calls. For all we know Weiss has a book of analytics that Snit has orders he has to make decisions by. I'd be shocked if AA didn't have some standing orders on in game managing just knowing what we know about AA.

I also doubt exactly how big of an impact managers have with their in game calls. I think the differences are pretty small as a fair portion of the choices are pretty obvious (closer pitches the 9th, send out your good lefty if you're going to have some strong lefty hitters coming up, etc). I think we tend to fight about the margins.

Finally, in game management is the tip of the iceberg of managing. If you don't think a manager's off field performance is important, go read what Urban Meyer was doing in Jacksonville. He could have been perfect on in game decisions and he still would never have been successful with the mess he created outside of games.
 
striker42 said:
I'll always judge a manager by the results over the long run vs what could have been expected. First, there can be factors playing into in game decisions we don't know about. Players are sometimes unavailable but it's not publicly known. Sometimes you have a player that might be struggling mentally and doesn't need to be put in a high pressure situation. Sometimes you have young guys who need to be treated with kid gloves.

We also don't know how much analytics play a roll in in game calls. For all we know Weiss has a book of analytics that Snit has orders he has to make decisions by. I'd be shocked if AA didn't have some standing orders on in game managing just knowing what we know about AA.

I also doubt exactly how big of an impact managers have with their in game calls. I think the differences are pretty small as a fair portion of the choices are pretty obvious (closer pitches the 9th, send out your good lefty if you're going to have some strong lefty hitters coming up, etc). I think we tend to fight about the margins.

Finally, in game management is the tip of the iceberg of managing. If you don't think a manager's off field performance is important, go read what Urban Meyer was doing in Jacksonville. He could have been perfect on in game decisions and he still would never have been successful with the mess he created outside of games.
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The first paragraph is fair- I'm sure there are things that we don't know about that sometimes influence decision-making. The second paragraph less so- if that were true, we'd see Snit making decisions in accordance with the numbers and not in defiance of them. I think most here wish there were more decisions taken out of Snitker's hands and determined instead based on analytics.

No doubt that Snit's value as a manager is the work he does in the clubhouse during a long season. You could argue that there are plenty of managers who wouldn't have been able to keep the ship above water with the struggles last year. The players love him, and there is something to be said for that. But when you're a contending team the decisions on the margins matter- especially in close playoff games against other good teams. His in game decisions likely won't make a difference on if the Braves make the playoffs or not over the next couple of years, but they could certainly make a difference on if they win one ring or two.
 
Nice little 3 scoreless for Ynoa against actual major leaguers.

I'm thrilled that AA saw the roster for what it was and realized that getting another starter was an awful use of resources.
 
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