Ferguson....

[57Brave]

Let's go back to the dead body lying disrespectfully on the street for 4 hours in August and young children walking past.
Curious what message those kids took from that . This in the wake of a year of television reporting Trayvon Martin being gunned down for wearing a sweatshirt with a hood.
Same story an authority with a weapon shot a black kid without a weapon.

What really puzzles me is how some y'all don't get that - then wonder why they don't aspire to your value set or want to be like you
That's what is really puzzling

 

[zitothebrave]

I'm curious as to why this thug wasn't shot

http://www.thehour.com/news/norwalk...cle_06358b3d-7d3c-58d0-8fba-1ab85a4ed185.html

 

[57Brave]

11/28/2014

In Brief: Many Police Do Not Just Shoot Unarmed People Who Are Resisting or Attacking Them

Just a quick list of things that cops do when they're not shooting unarmed people who threaten them:

1. From New York, about a week ago: "A Southold Town police officer reportedly used pepper spray and a Taser to subdue a Greenport man who was allegedly drunk and attacked the officer Monday."

2. From Minnesota, in October: "In response to his resisting officers, Johnson 'was sprayed with department-issue chemical irritants and forced outside.'" That's Tom Johnson, backup defensive tackle for the Minnesota Vikings, a notably large person.

3. From Massachusetts, in July: "Pepper spray had no effect on the suspect [who was on PCP and attacking officers] and it ultimately took numerous police officers and four sets of strung together handcuffs and leg shackles to get the man under control."

4. Finally, most poignantly, from Missouri, in September: "As the officer began to cuff the man, Turnbough reportedly turned and attacked him, tackling him to the ground and placing him in a choke hold." Another officer maced Jeffrey Turnbough, who had told police that he had a knife on him.

This list is endless. Not one of these men died attacking or resisting a cop, even though shooting them would have been faster and less painful for the cops being hit and strangled. In fact, most cops, when confronted with an unarmed, violent person, use mace and/or a Taser (since most police officers don't care if they're uncomfortable) and/or wait for backup.

Darren Wilson was scared. Scared people make stupid decisions that endanger others. Scared cops, apparently, get away with their stupid decisions.

(Note: Remember that Wilson said he didn't want to mace Michael Brown when Brown was supposedly attacking him up close. But when they were out in the open, with distance between them? Why not? Why shoot instead of mace?)
- See more at: http://rudepundit.blogspot.com/#sthash.EgI1egNm.dpuf

 

[mossy]

I don't understand what is to be gained by disruption of black Friday shopping.

What the hell does "we want justice" have to do with sbopping? If the police are at fault, why must the retailer suffer? Seems dumb to me.

Quit yelling and get a job. Of course, some won't need black Friday after looting.

A actually, yell and chant all you want. But Till blacks take black lives seriously, I don't want to be told that I should.

 

[Runnin]

Anybody posted this yet? OK, I've officially changed my mind after seeing the store video. He was heading for a bullet one way or another.

[video=youtube;VT2v64Ykxc0]https://www.youtube.com/watch?annotation_id=annotation_865147893&feature=iv&src_vid=PCmtrSsV7Ec&v=VT2v64Ykxc0[/video]

 

[goldfly]

"The only way I can describe it, it looks like a demon, that's how angry he looked. He comes back towards me again with his hands up."" That's the full quote. http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/storie...HLIGHTS?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT

thank you for quoting the part that he calls him "it"

 

[thethe]

I'm curious as to why this thug wasn't shot

http://www.thehour.com/news/norwalk...cle_06358b3d-7d3c-58d0-8fba-1ab85a4ed185.html

Well I didn't see where he reached for the officers gun but this is another example of a thug making the wrong decisions.

 

[thethe]

Anybody posted this yet? OK, I've officially changed my mind after seeing the store video. He was heading for a bullet one way or another.

[video=youtube;VT2v64Ykxc0]https://www.youtube.com/watch?annotation_id=annotation_865147893&feature=iv&src_vid=PCmtrSsV7Ec&v=VT2v64Ykxc0[/video]

The people that realize this are the ones that truly want things to change.

 

[zitothebrave]

Well I didn't see where he reached for the officers gun but this is another example of a thug making the wrong decisions.

Oh so Brown was reaching for Wilson's gun when he was at a distance from him? What is he Mr. Fantastic?

 

[thethe]

Oh so Brown was reaching for Wilson's gun when he was at a distance from him? What is he Mr. Fantastic?

No, Brown reached for his gun initially setting the precedent that Wilsons life was in danger.

 

[zitothebrave]

The people that realize this are the ones that truly want things to change.

Many people realize this. It's something that has been preached for 50+ years. What you're not grasping is talkig about **** and doing **** is totally different.

 

[zitothebrave]

No, Brown reached for his gun initially setting the precedent that Wilsons life was in danger.

So Brown was killed by the shot to his hand?

 

[thethe]

So Brown was killed by the shot to his hand?

No, Brown set the precedent that he would go for the officers gun which implies that he had the desire to kill the officer. At that point it becomes his life or Wilsons. If any of us were Wilson we would have done the same thing. Why give the benefit of the doubt to another person when they may have tried to kill you just a few moments earlier? It makes no sense at all.

 

[zitothebrave]

So when he reached for the gun that the officer was pointing at him, he set the precedent that he would kill the officer, not the officer that set the precedent that he woudl kill Brown. Damn here I was thinking people had a right to defend themselves when their lives were threatened. I guess that gets thrown out if you get a few cheap shots in on a cop and steal some cigars.

 

[thethe]

So when he reached for the gun that the officer was pointing at him, he set the precedent that he would kill the officer, not the officer that set the precedent that he woudl kill Brown. Damn here I was thinking people had a right to defend themselves when their lives were threatened. I guess that gets thrown out if you get a few cheap shots in on a cop and steal some cigars.

Officers have guns. They point guns are perpetrators. That does not imply they are going to kill someone (despite what some of you on this board believe). However, when a non-compliant citizen wrestles with an officer and reaches for their gun well thats a completely different story. You don't want to acknowledge that but the situations are completely different but they are.

 

[zitothebrave]

Officers have guns. They point guns are perpetrators. That does not imply they are going to kill someone (despite what some of you on this board believe). However, when a non-compliant citizen wrestles with an officer and reaches for their gun well thats a completely different story. You don't want to acknowledge that but the situations are completely different but they are.

So you point the gun at someone with the safety off and your finger on the trigger because you don't have an intention to kill them? Hmmmm. Here I thought guns were a very violent and deadly weapon, glad that they're only violent and deadly when the cops whisper the magic words into them to switch the bullets from rainbows to lead. Maybe the issue is that cosp point guns at people when they don't need to. Not that Brown decided to defend himself from getting shot. Afterall if this peepants could take a few hits to the face to decide to pull his gun, why wouldn't he also decide to shoot it?

 

[Tomahawking4life]

In Brief: Many Police Do Not Just Shoot Unarmed People Who Are Resisting or Attacking Them.

Then there's more stories of cops who do. Like the black cop who shot an unarmed white man on a college campus. No one ever heard about that though. There was no protests, no riots, no national media coverage. Why? Where was Obama then?

 

[thethe]

So you point the gun at someone with the safety off and your finger on the trigger because you don't have an intention to kill them? Hmmmm. Here I thought guns were a very violent and deadly weapon, glad that they're only violent and deadly when the cops whisper the magic words into them to switch the bullets from rainbows to lead. Maybe the issue is that cosp point guns at people when they don't need to. Not that Brown decided to defend himself from getting shot. Afterall if this peepants could take a few hits to the face to decide to pull his gun, why wouldn't he also decide to shoot it?

Its an officers job to hold a gun and restrain citizens when they get out of control. Continue to ignore that and you will continue to not see the difference between Wilson pointing a gun and Brown trying to take his gun.

 

[thethe]

Then there's more stories of cops who do. Like the black cop who shot an unarmed white man on a college campus. No one ever heard about that though. There was no protests, no riots, no national media coverage. Why? Where was Obama then?

I'm sure the officer had a valid reason to do it. Nobody wants to take another mans life and live with it unless they are sick.

 

[zitothebrave]

Its an officers job to hold a gun and restrain citizens when they get out of control. Continue to ignore that and you will continue to not see the difference between Wilson pointing a gun and Brown trying to take his gun.

It's a peace keeper's job to put a gun to someone's head when they aren't in possession of a deadly firearm. Because they're scared they may have 2 rosey red cheeks?