Neverending **** the Police thread.

Metaphysicist said:
Completely unsurprised to see who has had the worst takes in this thread. Anyway, great interview with Bryan Stevenson.

https://www.newyorker.com/news/q-an...-frustration-behind-the-george-floyd-protests
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This is the quote that resonated with me:

"To be honest, it’s not that hard to protest. It’s not that hard to go someplace. And it doesn’t mean that it’s not important. It doesn’t mean that it’s not critical. But that’s not the hard thing we need from people who care about these issues. We need people to vote, we need people to engage in policy reform and political reform, we need people to not tolerate the rhetoric of fear and anger that so many of our elected officials use to sustain power."

There's too much expectation of protests to affect change. Protests don't cause change themselves. They open doors to present opportunities to affect change. You're not changing the system without engaging with the system.
 
cajunrevenge said:
https://www.theatlantic.com/politic...nounces-trump-protests-militarization/612640/



General Mattis lets loose on Trump, supports protesters. This is snowballing.
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Mattis makes a basic point: deal with the lawbreakers, but don't let them distract from the more important issue that people are protesting about.

I think there are people (including very poorly chosen one and Tom Cotton in his op-ed piece) who want to emphasize the first part. And that is getting things backwards.

The language about "dominating" the protestors shows how badly very poorly chosen one understands the situation. And the stunt with the bible is just a very deep self-inflicted wound.

I'm glad Mattis is also calling out Esper on this whole idea of dominating the battlespace:

“We must reject any thinking of our cities as a ‘battlespace’ that our uniformed military is called upon to ‘dominate.’ At home, we should use our military only when requested to do so, on very rare occasions, by state governors. Militarizing our response, as we witnessed in Washington, D.C., sets up a conflict—a false conflict—between the military and civilian society. It erodes the moral ground that ensures a trusted bond between men and women in uniform and the society they are sworn to protect, and of which they themselves are a part. Keeping public order rests with civilian state and local leaders who best understand their communities and are answerable to them."
 
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It is not too late even at this very late hour for people like Lindsey Graham to salvage something of their honor by endorsing what Mattis is saying.
 
cajunrevenge said:
Oh God damnit they got Brees involved in this now. Kamara, Thomas, and Sanders unfollowed him on twatter.
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He has the right to his beliefs. I'm not a big fan of people making a political statement on company time. But if you are going to wade into this at this moment in time, you need to have some awareness of what is at stake.
 
nsacpi said:
He has the right to his beliefs. I'm not a big fan of people making a political statement on company time. But if you are going to wade into this at this moment in time, you need to have some awareness of what is at stake.
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Indeed.

There is only one opinion a citizen may have or else he is cancelled

#tolerance
 
Mike Valerio
@MikevWUSA
· 2h
5PM WHITE HOUSE — These are the unidentified DOJ officers

holding the perimeter at 15th and H Streets.

They won’t tell the public to whom they report exactly...


It’s generating HUGE frustration here

#GeorgeFloyd @WUSA9
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Ellison upping the charge to 2and degree murder on the cop.

This is a mistake

We are setting up the ip

Opportunity for the guy to walk
 
sturg33 said:
Ellison upping the charge to 2and degree murder on the cop.

This is a mistake

We are setting up the ip

Opportunity for the guy to walk
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Doesn't the jury have the option to convict on a lesser charge in this kind of case. Legal eagles? Does it depend on judge's instructions?
 
cajunrevenge said:
Oh God damnit they got Brees involved in this now. Kamara, Thomas, and Sanders unfollowed him on twatter.
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The lack of ability for people to accept that it's okay for others to have different beliefs and opinions never ceases to amaze me. And I apply this to Brees and those going after Brees.
 
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