Post Post-Heyward Discussion Here.

WEll I think Freddie was our second best player, not Justin, but it's the same basic issue between the 2. WE're gutting our 4 best players from last year down to 1 by most reports and signing old guys to 4 year deals. Just not smart baseball.
 
zitothebrave said:
WEll I think Freddie was our second best player, not Justin, but it's the same basic issue between the 2. WE're gutting our 4 best players from last year down to 1 by most reports and signing old guys to 4 year deals. Just not smart baseball.
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While getting young talented players to plug into other needs.

Don't forget that part.
 
BRule said:
We got 2 young players, 1 has been up and down in his career and the other has injury concerns.
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Yes, so far. And when Upton is traded we are going to get more young talented players.

And the player that has been up and down in his "career" well his career has only spanned 370 innings. Forgive me for not being concerned he's been up and down thus far. Also, every pitcher has injury concerns.
 
50PoundHead said:
But it's my guess that as a CF, Heyward's defensive numbers would suffer somewhat and erode his value. I'm not downplaying his defensive value, but corner OF is not a prime defensive position. I want to make it clear that doesn't mean you can stick Ryan Doumit out there and not suffer some fairly obvious consequences, but I don't think Heyward would hold his defensive measures in CF.

I just think Heyward and Close were bent on going to free agency and short of that, trying to put the Braves in a bind by negotiating throughout the 2015 season where every little move would be played out in the press. Braves didn't want to go through that and, truth be told, it would have been a huge distraction to have that hanging over the team's head. I think that is why the move happened relatively quickly.
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And why it's a good thing to sink nearly a 1/4 of your budget in one player - or say the budget expands - even 1/6 into one player is beyond me. One purported superstar (who isn't one at this moment) and 24 scrubs just doesn't make sense to me.
 
BedellBrave said:
And why it's a good thing to sink nearly a 1/4 of your budget in one player - or say the budget expands - even 1/6 into one player is beyond me. One purported superstar (who isn't one at this moment) and 24 scrubs just doesn't make sense to me.
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Baseball is the sport where the impact of one player is the most insignificant in comparison to the team. You need a well-rounded 25 man roster (40+ for the regular season) to become a good team. I'm glad we are building by trading away an expiring asset for future assets. Its the smart move.
 
thethe said:
Yes, so far. And when Upton is traded we are going to get more young talented players.

And the player that has been up and down in his "career" well his career has only spanned 370 innings. Forgive me for not being concerned he's been up and down thus far. Also, every pitcher has injury concerns.
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Young, rebuilding players for a team that just signed Markakis for 4/45.....makes sense.
 
"We're looking to make our team worse in anyway possible." -Braves FO to agents and other organizations.

"Hey, we've had some tough times with signing other teams' veterans of late. Created some bad situations. Let's do it again instead of investing in our own young, far more talented players. Let's trade two of our very best players and replace them with ****tier options." -Braves FO
 
BRule said:
Young, rebuilding players for a team that just signed Markakis for 4/45.....makes sense.
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Yup, by the time they're good and consistent (if that ever happens) we will be paying Markakis $11 mil still to suck ass.
 
BRule said:
Young, rebuilding players for a team that just signed Markakis for 4/45.....makes sense.
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Yes, because the Braves still feel with their pitching that they can compete. The top 4 arms in the rotation are very good and now they added a 350 OBP guy to the lineup which didn't cost them a draft pick. I think it makes perfect sense.
 
yeezus said:
Yup, by the time they're good and consistent (if that ever happens) we will be paying Markakis $11 mil still to suck ass.
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And Jason Heyward would have been long gone with the Braves only left with a late first round pick. That makes even more sense!
 
thethe said:
Yes, because the Braves still feel with their pitching that they can compete. The top 4 arms in the rotation are very good and now they added a 350 OBP guy to the lineup which didn't cost them a draft pick. I think it makes perfect sense.
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Markakis hasn't had a .350 OBP since 2012. In fact, since then, it's been pretty poor for an $11 mil player with no power and bad defense.

By the logic that Markakis is a ".350 OBP" guy, we just traded away a 25 year old, 30 2B, 27 HR, 20 SB player with world-class defense.
 
yeezus said:
Markakis hasn't had a .350 OBP since 2012. In fact, since then, it's been pretty poor for an $11 mil player with no power and bad defense.

By the logic that Markakis is a ".350 OBP" guy, we just traded away a 25 year old, 30 2B, 27 HR, 20 SB player with world-class defense.
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Well I'm pretty sure he had a bad injury to deal with in 2013 and last year he was pretty close to that mark. Maybe it gets worse and thats a valid argument but for his career he has been a 350 OBP guy.
 
thethe said:
Yes, because the Braves still feel with their pitching that they can compete. The top 4 arms in the rotation are very good and now they added a 350 OBP guy to the lineup which didn't cost them a draft pick. I think it makes perfect sense.
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They have a weird way of rewarding their pitching that they love so much, they reward them with the worst defensive OF in baseball.
 
Let's see how much better our pitching looks like Markakis and Gattis missing a **** ton of plays.
 
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