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  1. acesfull86

    Second ('Third') Trump Presidency Thread

    Crazy idea!
  2. acesfull86

    Second ('Third') Trump Presidency Thread

    These are the kinds of gymnastics one should expect from those who mock "PRINCIPLES"
  3. acesfull86

    Second ('Third') Trump Presidency Thread

    Unfortunately, it'll still get you nowhere with this cat
  4. acesfull86

    Second ('Third') Trump Presidency Thread

    Show work??
  5. acesfull86

    Second ('Third') Trump Presidency Thread

    Idk if it's just willful obtuseness with this guy or what
  6. acesfull86

    Second ('Third') Trump Presidency Thread

    It's bananas
  7. acesfull86

    Second ('Third') Trump Presidency Thread

    I could be charitable and say the liberals driving the post-election trend on this graph are feeling the acute pain on tariffs and have seen the light on free market capitalism…but I won’t be charitable.
  8. acesfull86

    Second ('Third') Trump Presidency Thread

    You're missing the other side of the equation. This is reminding me of the Trump argument that trade deficits are inherently a bad thing, not realizing there is an equal and offsetting capital account surplus. The VAT's are trade neutral.
  9. acesfull86

    Second ('Third') Trump Presidency Thread

    Europe's VAT taxes aren't giving them an unfair international trading position. IDK where you guys studied economics, but maybe stop going around calling people "uninformed" or "clowns." Good grief...
  10. acesfull86

    Second ('Third') Trump Presidency Thread

    I disagree with the premise that we’ve been taken advantage of by other countries. Also, most countries, especially developed economies, had very low tariffs on us before Trump ignited this war (EU 2-3%, China 3%, Canada & Mexico 0-3%). And tariffs suppress economic growth.
  11. acesfull86

    Second ('Third') Trump Presidency Thread

    Your preferred outcome for this trade war that Trump initiated that you’re supporting. If you’re for it, surely there’s an endgame you have in mind. Sounds like from the rest of your response that maybe you want all countries to bring their tariff rates down to 0%? That’s how I interpret “a...
  12. acesfull86

    Second ('Third') Trump Presidency Thread

    The MAGA case for tariffs changes hourly…sorry I can’t tell you all apart. Like I said the last time you got bent out of shape, you’re welcome to make a positive case for what you want other than an appeal to sit around and wait for the promise of some vague “better trade deals.” What the hell...
  13. acesfull86

    Second ('Third') Trump Presidency Thread

    Keep digging
  14. acesfull86

    Second ('Third') Trump Presidency Thread

    Exhibit A
  15. acesfull86

    Second ('Third') Trump Presidency Thread

    Why would anyone engage with you on this when you’re intellectually dishonest in these conversations? Example 1: Trump 1st term tariffs - “a 2020 pandemic invalidates 2019 conclusions from a 2017 policy!” Example 2: Any other time tariffs were tried before - “all of this data is invalidated...
  16. acesfull86

    Economics Thread

    Aces - “the case for free trade predates the existence of the CCP” Thethe - *bunch of stuff, none of which addresses what was said* What are you stupid?”
  17. acesfull86

    Second ('Third') Trump Presidency Thread

    Another day, another shift of the goalposts I listened to that Douglas Murray-Dave Smith debate on Rogan and Murray said something to the effect of “I feel like I’m punching jello.” I know what he means.
  18. acesfull86

    Economics Thread

    Is this coherent to anyone? The line of “reasoning” from MAGA gets more ridiculous and embarrassing by the minute. Jeez.
  19. acesfull86

    Second ('Third') Trump Presidency Thread

    Dude, tariffs have been tried over and over again. There’s nothing “short-sighted” or “ignorant” about pointing out that they have not been successful at achieving their stated aims.
  20. acesfull86

    Economics Thread

    If everything about the world was the same and China didn’t exist, we’d still be here advocating for free trade. This is a bizarre and irrelevant line of argument. The case for free trade predates the CCP’s existence.
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