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Both Jason Marquis and Odalis Perez started in the pen in ATL before moving to the rotation. The Cardinals had Wainwright as their closer before he became their ace. Moving Folty to the pen in 2015 doesnt mean you give up on him as a starter, it just means that in 2015 hes best used in the pen...

Would it be a bad idea to move Folty to the pen?

I did, we were a team that needed pop/obp and getting 40 hr a year from Dunn would have helped the Braves. then i got an appreceation for defense after watching guys like Garret Anderson who the Braves had in the OF and stoped suggesting Dunn ever again. I even posted this very same thing...

Leaving Cal Ripken behind was a great example of his jerkness. The fact that he was a jerk in ATl shouldnt suprise anybody. The issue i see is how nobody cared about his jerkness when he first replaced JS. We care about it now.

I was never a premium content member at scout. :/ In fact i remember when the division happened the place started to go downhill and i posted very infrequently there at all. Also im not the OP of this thread either.

Frank Wren being a jerk ect was the story in his time in baltimore too. Which was my problem when he replaced JS initially. There was that issue he had with Cal Ripken i think?

I actually think if i remember correctly metrics put him as not so good defensively but my memory is hazy but thats not my point. My point is you cant just get rid of a top prospect just cause you think you have a position locked up cause history shows us that you dont. I want to keep Peraza...

I remember when Yuniel Escobar "solidified" SS for years to come and made trading Elvis Andrus justifiable. Nothing against Jace Peterson. But i wanna keep Jose.

Grilli def needs to be the first guy we deal.

I think no one will disagree with this thread.

I know they do. But ill wait till they actually start spending it before thinking they will.

Not bad, will be better if we can parlay Uribe for something during the trade deadline.

I remember Obrien sending me a nasty message through twitter on how my disagreement with Freddis lineup construction was related to my fantasy league or some sillyness like that. Guy is a moron. I like Bowman enough though.

this is incredibly optimistic and depends on hypotheticals. We dont know if the braves will even add anything. All they have done recently is slash payroll with the saving face add of markakis.

Trevor Cahill and Callaspo for Uribe and Lee is that right?

Ken Rosenthal.

So hypotheticals? 1.The Heyward defenders are the ones obsessed not the haters! 2.Thread shows otherwise 3.Well its cause he sucks right now if not then they would be the ones obsessed!!!! Sorry it doesnt work like that.

If someone wants to give us anything of value then trade him. We should be full sellers by the deadline this year. Everything must go. Ect.

And what does that gain exactly? When someone disagrees with a move Hart makes and the move actually works out how does it help discussion to repeat ad naseum months later this? See Guys Hart was right! Cause it doesnt. Thethe, I could pull up posts on how you were one of Wrens biggest fans...

Threads like this one clearly say otherwise.