Dalyn
Fredi Gonzalez Supporter
Much better OPS? What are you talking about? Heyward actually has a higher OPS. What's the point of having this discussion if you are so obsessed with making the connection that you ignore the stats?
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Much better OPS? What are you talking about? Heyward actually has a higher OPS. What's the point of having this discussion if you are so obsessed with making the connection that you ignore the stats?
Horsehide Harry
<B>Mr. Free Trade</B>
We will just have to agree to disagree.
I would take Heyward back but nowhere near the rate he wants or is going to get. The blind love for him is just wrong IMO.
That's right. Posters, on other forums, have to be soiling themselves over that Gold Glove.
Excellent point! Why would any team want to bring runners home to score more runs than the opposition and actually try to win games? It's much better to continue hyping somebody, who once finished 20th in MVP voting and got selected for the All Star team in his rookie year.
Horsehide Harry
<B>Mr. Free Trade</B>
Piss off
There is no blind love. I just straight facts and statistics to make my arguments. Always have and always will.
And there is no agreeing to disagree. If you think dWAR value is crap based on certain positions then you DO NOT KNOW how it's calculated or what it means. That is also a fact.
Heyward is highly regarded around baseball as a premier all around talent. And you will see that this offseason.
I'm sorry you are butt hurt that Heyward didn't live up to your unrealistic expectations. And yes hitting with RISP comes and goes. Hence the Braves who were good at it at one point in the season now suck at it and are among the worst offenses in the league.
Horsehide Harry
<B>Mr. Free Trade</B>
Francouer has a better OPS using the BA stats. I am aware that they are a day old. I am not interested enough in this to go look at to the minute stats.
I am no longer interested in tarnishing your tin god. Faith has no boundaries and cannot be shaken.
Don't make stupid posts.
Are you also aware that Philly is a really good hitting park and it inflates raw OPS numbers? Probably not so you should go look that up as well.
This forum has a few members, who have nothing else to do but scour the internet all day/all week. They're experts. They're fantasy league team owners. They know that Jason Heyward should get $200 million.
rico43
<B>Director of Minor League Reports</B>
Why, why, why, why did I take you off Ignore?
I'd rather give $200 million to a workhorse like Ryan Howard. All those RBI man.
Dalyn
Fredi Gonzalez Supporter
There is a difference in not wanting Heyward back/not wanting to pay him 20+ million and comparing him to Francoeur. I don't care whether we get him back or not, but you are making a ridiculous comparison and not even bothering to check the stats to back it up.
Dalyn
Fredi Gonzalez Supporter
Horsehide Harry
<B>Mr. Free Trade</B>
Yeah they think their little sabermetric stats are the be-all and end-all in baseball. I am a firm believer in using all available means to evaluate players, including stats. But, I am open minded enough to understand that Stats don't always tell the whole story.
At the end of the day, I have no interest in allowing these little know it all keyboard cowboy piss ants get under my skin.
They don't want to see it so it isn't true. End of story.
Heyward is a decent player. If he ever started slugging again he might be a great player. But he isn't one now. I don't care how good his defense is supposed to be.
That's your first mistake.
Dalyn
Fredi Gonzalez Supporter
Heyward is near the top of the Cardinals in runs scored. Do those mean anything? Where is Francoeur on that one?
Doesn't matter man. RBI is king. GM's who pay for RBI are the best around.