Hector Olivera signs with the Dodgers

thethe said:
What is your deal with the Braves GF? You just seem very negative lately about all things.

I still believe that you are a fan but its just strange to me.
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I never remember his posts being any different. Almost every post anymore is a shot.
 
Do offers have a "time limit" type clause? Like when you make an offer on a house, generally the seller has 72 hours to get back with you, or something along those lines.... wonder if an offer can sit on the table for a month while he fishes for better offers, or there is some type of limit on that type of behavior.
 
thethe said:
What is your deal with the Braves GF? You just seem very negative lately about all things.

I still believe that you are a fan but its just strange to me.
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5 years ago they were a great story with young, homegrown players coming up through the farm. They were consistently developing young players to groom for the majors. Now, they haven't blown that all up and thrown crap on the field all with the stupid promise to compete in 2017 at a new stadium. Just 12 months ago, all the young players were getting extended and the team was on the way to another season of competing for the playoffs.

Still a fan, but the organization is a train wreck. Which is obviously true for any organization that believes Fredi Gonzalez is a good answer at manager. Im sick of this spin by the organization through the media to make everything try and sound good when their decisions led to the dismantling of the team. This is an outfield with Markakis, Gomes, and Eric Young...
 
Joel Sherman ‏@Joelsherman1 13m13 minutes ago
#Braves tried hard but quietly on Cubans Jorge Soler Rusney Castillo Yasmany Tomas Raciel Iglesias, so fact offer on Hector Olivera (cont)

Joel Sherman ‏@Joelsherman1 12m12 minutes ago
so public makes them wonder if they are being used to stir other interest #Braves
 
If we had gotten Soler...wow.

Does this mean the org. has been trying but is consistently getting priced out? Not surprising.
 
Atlanta is one of the biggest markets in baseball. Metro Atlanta is number 9 in the Country at 5.5M people. Metro Chicago is number three at 9.5M. NY and LA are 1,2 respectively. Chicago, NY and LA ALL have at least two teams vying for the population within their market. Take into consideration that Atlanta is more of a regional team because of geographies (no other teams in any metro markets within 100's of miles - Birmingham, Charlotte, Columbia, even much of Florida) and because of the marketing by the old TBS superstation and Atlanta IS A LARGE MARKET CLUB. Just because ownership chooses not to treat it as a large market club doesn't mean that it is not.

Ever since Ted Turner sold to AOL, the team has been run by corporate interests who have no real interest in winning baseball. Their interest is in maximizing profit in whatever form is most beneficial (cheap programming, tax write-offs, cold hard cash, whatever). When Turner was owner, the Braves spent as a large market club and went out and vied for the best talent regardless of cost. And they still made money.

Braves fans talk like the club is some kind of supplicant who can't ever compete because "the big boys" buy up the best players. Well newsflash: The Braves are a 6'7" 350lb monster with 5.0 speed and a bench of 600, but CHOOSE to stay on the cheer leading squad.

Installing sports communism isn't going to change that.

I would like every one to think about something for a second: Do leagues with salary caps not still get dominated (over time) by the same teams over and over? Look at the NFL, the usual suspects are there every year. Sure, the have not's rise and fall. But isn't that happening in Baseball now? When was the last time the Yankees won a WS? Who was in the WS last year?

All a salary cap does is ensures a minimum level of profitability for owners of all clubs. That's it.
 
The Braves have a crappy domestic fanbase and their TV market sucks. Regardless of the statistics they are not a large market. Hopefully the move to Cobb County will energize the fanbase and sell out some games.
 
thethe said:
The Braves have a crappy domestic fanbase and their TV market sucks. Regardless of the statistics they are not a large market. Hopefully the move to Cobb County will energize the fanbase and sell out some games.
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All that will do is make Liberty richer
 
thethe said:
Probably.
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I mean I get what you are saying. Rich teams buying up top tier talent just becuase they can sucks. But the Braves can spend more. They just don't becuase of their owners. And large payrolls don't equals wins. It just provides them more room for mistakes.
 
MadduxFanII said:
And on the other hand:

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Separate #Braves people tell me Olivera not a high priority, or that he was impressive in workout but hard to tell how translates to MLB...
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That part bothers me. Yes, it's hard, but that's why you pay people good money to do the hard work. If the Braves have people who can't do their job (estimate how his skills will translate), they need to hire people who can.
 
Horsehide Harry said:
Atlanta is one of the biggest markets in baseball. Metro Atlanta is number 9 in the Country at 5.5M people. Metro Chicago is number three at 9.5M. NY and LA are 1,2 respectively. Chicago, NY and LA ALL have at least two teams vying for the population within their market. Take into consideration that Atlanta is more of a regional team because of geographies (no other teams in any metro markets within 100's of miles - Birmingham, Charlotte, Columbia, even much of Florida) and because of the marketing by the old TBS superstation and Atlanta IS A LARGE MARKET CLUB. Just because ownership chooses not to treat it as a large market club doesn't mean that it is not.

Ever since Ted Turner sold to AOL, the team has been run by corporate interests who have no real interest in winning baseball. Their interest is in maximizing profit in whatever form is most beneficial (cheap programming, tax write-offs, cold hard cash, whatever). When Turner was owner, the Braves spent as a large market club and went out and vied for the best talent regardless of cost. And they still made money.

Braves fans talk like the club is some kind of supplicant who can't ever compete because "the big boys" buy up the best players. Well newsflash: The Braves are a 6'7" 350lb monster with 5.0 speed and a bench of 600, but CHOOSE to stay on the cheer leading squad.

Installing sports communism isn't going to change that.

I would like every one to think about something for a second: Do leagues with salary caps not still get dominated (over time) by the same teams over and over? Look at the NFL, the usual suspects are there every year. Sure, the have not's rise and fall. But isn't that happening in Baseball now? When was the last time the Yankees won a WS? Who was in the WS last year?

All a salary cap does is ensures a minimum level of profitability for owners of all clubs. That's it.
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I hope no animals were harmed in the writing of this post.
 
Dalyn said:
That part bothers me. Yes, it's hard, but that's why you pay people good money to do the hard work. If the Braves have people who can't do their job (estimate how his skills will translate), they need to hire people who can.
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Now that's a downright scandalous, scurrilous, lowdown, dirty accusation, Mr. Dalyn.

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