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sturg33 said:
I don't know anything about this kid everyone is yapping about now... can someone point me to a link or something for a writeup?
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Slick fielder no pop bat his whole minor league career. Last year he had a spike in power so who knows. Power is usually the last thing to develop. Maybe another Prado.
 
sturg33 said:
I don't know anything about this kid everyone is yapping about now... can someone point me to a link or something for a writeup?
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Always been a defense first SS prospect. I think switch hitter? Light bat, big arm type.

If he could scribble up some OBP and AVG and a smidge of pop he's an awesome utility guy (as in he won't hurt you defensively pretty much anywhere on the IF, possibly a +fielder.) The bats the question.
 
BornaBrave said:
I was at the last two games and was very impressed with Camargo. Smooth swing from both sides with pop in his bat. He played second, third, and short in the field and handled himself very well. His confident attitude says "I'm here!" He looks like he can't wait for the next opportunity.
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I feel pretty confident this is just due to a small sample size and an example of the flaws of the eye test.

As a 20-year-old in A ball, he OPS'd .643.
As a 21-year-old in A+, he OPS'd .650.
As a 22-year-old in AA, he OPS'd .683.

While there has been slight improvement as he's moved up, there's nothing there yet to suggest he's capable of being a major league guy. Moving him to the OF, as rico suggested, seems laughable. His value is in his defense at SS.
 
I've always been higher on Camargo than most. He seems to be showing some power as he moves up. Good defense around the IF. I think someone would have taken him in the Rule 5 if he hadn't been on the 40-man roster. Don't know if he could play OF, but I think rico's idea isn't half-bad. Throw him out there periodically to see if that adds to his value. His projection is likely a back-up who can hit a little and field fairly well. As others have said, his ability to play SS effectively is his primary value chip. With Swanson in the bigs and Albies at 2B, Camargo is probably the everyday SS in Gwinnett. Let's see how it goes.
 
Camargo profiles as a utility player at the major league level. There is always the chance he could develop into something more but imo the odds are low.

In terms of our position prospects who aren't generally considered Top 100 prospects, the two I hold out the most hope that they could develop into major league regulars are Dustin Peterson and Rio Ruiz. I don't think they'll be stars by any means. But I could see those two occupying the 6 and 7 spots in a major league lineup on a regular basis and not hurting their teams.
 
nsacpi said:
Camargo profiles as a utility player at the major league level. There is always the chance he could develop into something more but imo the odds are low.

In terms of our position prospects who aren't generally considered Top 100 prospects, the two I hold out the most hope that they could develop into major league regulars are Dustin Peterson and Rio Ruiz. I don't think they'll be stars by any means. But I could see those two occupying the 6 and 7 spots in a major league lineup on a regular basis and not hurting their teams.
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Absolutely. I doubt either profiles as a star -- if either one does, it's probably D. Pete -- but they can be a solid piece to a contending team.
 
"Not hurting their teams" sounds kinda depressing, until you realize that "not hurting their teams" would have been a significant upgrade in some recent times.
 
jimsnores said:
"Not hurting their teams" sounds kinda depressing, until you realize that "not hurting their teams" would have been a significant upgrade in some recent times.
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you also have to consider cost effectiveness...having a couple guys like that in their pre-free agent years hitting 6 or 7 allows you to spend and upgrade elsewhere
 
smootness said:
I feel pretty confident this is just due to a small sample size and an example of the flaws of the eye test.

As a 20-year-old in A ball, he OPS'd .643.
As a 21-year-old in A+, he OPS'd .650.
As a 22-year-old in AA, he OPS'd .683.

While there has been slight improvement as he's moved up, there's nothing there yet to suggest he's capable of being a major league guy. Moving him to the OF, as rico suggested, seems laughable. His value is in his defense at SS.
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Way to read too much into my statement. Having him working in the outfield would add to his versatility. It seems late-inning replacements might be common in left field the next two years; I'm betting that few "extra" OFs in the Braves pipeline have as strong an arm as Camargo.
 
I watched the whole game last night. I liked the fight the kids showed late in the game. Lots of names there I hadn't heard of, and I follow this board pretty religiously. On the pitching side, Wisler and Newcomb both looked bad, but Newcomb especially looked frustrated. To the coaches' credit, they kept him out there to work through the rough inning. I've seen him all of one inning, granted, but he didn't impress me at all.
 
rico43 said:
Way to read too much into my statement. Having him working in the outfield would add to his versatility. It seems late-inning replacements might be common in left field the next two years; I'm betting that few "extra" OFs in the Braves pipeline have as strong an arm as Camargo.
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It's just hard to envision Camargo hitting well enough to even be of much use as a utility guy. I'm sure we have infielders in the minors who can play OF defensively, and I'm sure Camargo could do it as well. The issue is, and always will be, his bat. He has basically been a bench guy...in A-AA. That's not a great sign.
 
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